yes they are still my imagesThis is a discussion on yes they are still my images within the Business Talk forums, part of the Business Discussion category; So I did a photoshoot about 3 years ago (maybe 4) for a very lovely young lady as part of ...
(#1)
| | I'm listening
Posts: 5,866 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston (Cypress), Texas, Texas Real First Name: Nathan Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 15 LIKES Given: 101 | yes they are still my images -
09-03-2009, 07:04 PM
So I did a photoshoot about 3 years ago (maybe 4) for a very lovely young lady as part of a magazine issue. Got the model release signed and she loved the pics. 6 months after the shoot, she emails me wanting me to remove the images from my site  
I complied and never gave it another thought but about 3 months ago, I had a problem with my site and had to restore it from a backup which included some of her images. I get an email today from her TELLING me to remove the pics (I didn't even know they were there). I tried to explain to her what happened, but she was too busy telling me the images belonged to her...yada, yada, yada
I removed them again, but I guess what bugs me is
1. her misconception of copyright and her demands
2. the images were used in a national publication, yet you have a problem with them being on my site 
Am I missing something here??? | | | | | Sponsored Links | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
|
(#2)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 2,903 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Real First Name: Suzy Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-03-2009, 07:17 PM
Wow, that's out of line. I would have put them back up after she was so crazy about it. Maybe she has a stalker or something and that's why she wants them down?
---------------------------
Suzy http://www.suzyeide.com
Missing my greyhound
* Spay/neuter your pets! *
Canon 7D and 20D
| | | |
(#3)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 601 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Reaford, North Carolina Real First Name: Justin Camera: Canon 1D mark III & 50D Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 5 LIKES Received: 22 LIKES Given: 90 |
09-03-2009, 07:28 PM
Depends on what was written on the model release, such as "photographer retains the right to display images without consent from the model" etc. | | | |
(#4)
| | Permanently Banned
Posts: 15,341 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tx, Real First Name: Tom Camera: canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 24 LIKES Received: 5 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-03-2009, 07:36 PM
It's nice that you are so compliant with her demands.
You probably don't HAVE to comply since you have the appropriate releases, but unless you want to make a point it's probably better to remove them. You could explain to her that you are VOLUNTARILY removing them because you are a nice guy, but that when she signed the release she signed away her option to tell you what to do. (like she ever had an option anyway)... | | | |
(#5)
| | I'm listening
Posts: 5,866 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston (Cypress), Texas, Texas Real First Name: Nathan Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 15 LIKES Given: 101 |
09-03-2009, 08:19 PM
thanks guys,
the release allowed me to display/use them in print and/or on my web site and the only place I showed them was my web site. the first time she found them, someone googled her name and told her and she wanted them gone, I guess she googled her name again... | | | |
(#6)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 9,770 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Real First Name: Todd Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 8 LIKES Received: 4 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-03-2009, 09:36 PM
Sounds like she has too much time on her hands! | | | |
(#7)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 13,314 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Real First Name: Brad (duh) Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 12 LIKES Received: 136 LIKES Given: 33 |
09-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Seems to be going around.. I've had a model recently ask to have images removed.. I will probably comply, but I won't be using her ever again.
--------------------------- Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits Honest critiques always welcomed. An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903 | | | |
(#8)
| | Permanently Banned
Posts: 15,341 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tx, Real First Name: Tom Camera: canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 24 LIKES Received: 5 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-03-2009, 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brad Seems to be going around.. I've had a model recently ask to have images removed.. I will probably comply, but I won't be using her ever again. | The only way they'll get the message is if you explain the way it works, and keep the images up on the site, at least for a while. | | | |
(#9)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 2,789 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Sam Camera: Canon 5D, 40D Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 11 LIKES Received: 7 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-04-2009, 01:02 AM
Have on the model release: "I reserve the right to put yer head on a nekkid body and email it to everyone on the internets"  | | | |
(#10)
| | Forum Master
Posts: 1,940 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Wisteria Lane, Maine Real First Name: Ron Camera: Canon/Bronica/Mamiya TLR Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 43 LIKES Given: 5 |
09-04-2009, 08:10 AM
our model release also states that we can manipulate them anyway we want also. so, basically, they can't complain just because they don't like how they look in the picture. i forget the exact verbiage | | | |
(#11)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 2,696 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Killeen, Texas Real First Name: Andy Camera: Canon 7D, 5D Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 8 LIKES Received: 75 LIKES Given: 1 |
09-04-2009, 08:20 AM
I would emphasize Cap'n Tom's comments, that you let her know that because of the release you do have the right to do this, but out of professional courtesy you'll pull them. I believe the model needs to understand ownership and use rights to avoid further complications. | | | |
(#12)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 2,970 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Katy, Texas Real First Name: Donna Camera: Nikon D80, D700 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 9 LIKES Given: 10 |
09-07-2009, 11:40 PM
I had this issue - parents wanted photos of their daughter taken down - I asked - and while I could leave them up - it wasn't worth the issues it would cause - so I pulled them down.
--------------------------- "Dying people lie too. Wish they'd worked less, been nicer, opened orphanages for kittens. If you really want to do something, you do it. You don't save it for a sound bite." BLOG | WEBSITE | | | |
(#13)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,841 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Plano, Texas Real First Name: Paco Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 13 LIKES Received: 170 LIKES Given: 47 |
09-07-2009, 11:53 PM
Agreed with opinions above. I would probably get on the phone to discuss the matter with her, understand where she's coming from, and explain nicely copyright law and my rights as per the release. There is no benefit to me in being hard on people I did business with unless it's absolutely necessary.
---------------------------
-Paco Romero website| blog| MM| Facebook "Light makes photography. Embrace light. Admire it. Love it. But above all, know light. Know it for all you are worth, and you will know the key to photography."- George Eastman
| | | |
(#14)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 13,314 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Real First Name: Brad (duh) Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 12 LIKES Received: 136 LIKES Given: 33 |
09-08-2009, 06:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungaltx I had this issue - parents wanted photos of their daughter taken down - I asked - and while I could leave them up - it wasn't worth the issues it would cause - so I pulled them down. | There's a big difference between a paid session and a TFP here, though, IMHO... for a TFP, pulling down the photos mean that your time was nearly completely wasted... at least a paid session, you received compensation.
--------------------------- Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits Honest critiques always welcomed. An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903 | | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | Google Sponsors | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
| |
Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. |