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09-18-2010, 02:19 PM


When this happened at our old house...
We took the shims out between the door jam and the studs.
Put in a piece of angle steel about 24" long and screwed that into the stud from the front and the side.
Drilled holes in it for the deadboult to go through.
Mounted a solid core, steel reinforced door.
Used a par of long shaft deadbolts (1 keyed internal/external, 1 thumb internal only).
Put the new door jam in place with the new door.
Put molding back over it.
Nobody would ever know its there, until they broke a body part trying to force it open...

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Just make sure the jam is reinforced. That's what blew out when they kicked the door.


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09-21-2010, 07:01 PM


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That's my strategy. My "office manager" Mabel has tasted human blood (no, I wasn't encouraging it at the time), and although that makes for some uncomfortable moments whenever we have guests, it sure makes our conversations with door-to-door salesmen quite short.

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10-06-2010, 03:38 AM


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Just make sure the jam is reinforced. That's what blew out when they kicked the door.

I always wonder why they build the doors to open to the inside of houses? Why don't they make the door to swing out, that way you can't kick it in? Is it in case there's a fire, it can be kicked in?

Back to the OP, So what do you guys do when you have say, 3 TB of data you want backed up and are going to use Crashplan or Carbonite?
It would take WEEKS to upload that, right?

edit: I'm trying out the free trial of Crashplan now...I'm going to see how long it takes to back some files up and try it out.

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10-14-2010, 09:49 PM


[QUOTE Too bad you can't upload the raws.[/QUOTE]

You CAN upload raws.
and right now I have >420G uploaded in storage on smugmug

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If I try to upload a folder and there are other files in the folder besides JPEGs, it will say "Smugvault Required" and fail to upload those files. Unless they did an update allowing RAW format recently, they're not allowed. Can you provide a link saying such? If we can then that would be great.

edit: See image below. File names are grayed out because it will not accept them.
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If I try to upload a folder and there are other files in the folder besides JPEGs, it will say "Smugvault Required" and fail to upload those files. Unless they did an update allowing RAW format recently, they're not allowed. Can you provide a link saying such? If we can then that would be great.

edit: See image below. File names are grayed out because it will not accept them.
You hit the nail on the head. You have to have a SmugVault account to upload RAW to SmugMug.
Thats where a site like Carbonite (that doesnt care what you upload) comes into play.

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10-19-2010, 11:55 AM


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I always wonder why they build the doors to open to the inside of houses? Why don't they make the door to swing out, that way you can't kick it in? Is it in case there's a fire, it can be kicked in?
You also expose the hinges to the outside world if you do that, and I'm not sure if you can easily secure the hinge pins and keep them from being removed.

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Back to the OP, So what do you guys do when you have say, 3 TB of data you want backed up and are going to use Crashplan or Carbonite? It would take WEEKS to upload that, right?
I tried Mozy and discovered that very problem, and we have one of AT&T fastest available Internet plans. Upload speeds are just way too slow. Especially if I come home from a race day with 30+ gig of raw files. And I don't want to know how long downloading would take to do a full restore if I ever needed to. These online systems are great only for small amounts of data.

My solution: a large portable hard disk setup as a Time Machine drive that I keep offsite and update periodically. It also has a second Aperture Vault. I then have local Time Machine and Vault disks for daily use.
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Look at how Chase Jarvis does it. Insane!


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Keep in mind that off-site backup systems aren't meant to be the primary means of backing up large amounts of data. At least, I don't treat Carbonite that way. My primary is an internal mirrored drive and an external USB drive. My Carbonite backup is there should both of these fail, burn, or get stolen. Carbonite backs up quietly in the background as I work or at idle times, but my data is already on the mirrored HD and USB HD.

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Look at how Chase Jarvis does it. Insane!
Music is annoying as heck, but you're right... Insane. LOL

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Keep in mind that off-site backup systems aren't meant to be the primary means of backing up large amounts of data. At least, I don't treat Carbonite that way. My primary is an internal mirrored drive and an external USB drive. My Carbonite backup is there should both of these fail, burn, or get stolen. Carbonite backs up quietly in the background as I work or at idle times, but my data is already on the mirrored HD and USB HD.
I'm looking at Carbonite for that exact reason. I have backups that run nightly to an external drive in the house but I want to make sure if anything happens (theft, fire, etc.) that I still have a backup available for my important things. I'm guessing that it's working out fine for that type of process.
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10-19-2010, 01:36 PM


So I got the drive from Crashplan, loaded it up, sent it back, they received it and now my daily backups are running as planned. Definitely a worthwhile addition to the whole backup plan, but also the very last backup you would want to access. Looks to me like that would require drives to be sent back to you. Online backup is slow.

If anyone is thinking of doing this I have two suggestions:

1. Make sure it's your last line of defense in a proper backup strategy with onsite and offsite backups being set up first. Then add the online for redundancy.

2. Go with CrashPlan and opt for them to send you a blank drive. Makes like sooooo much easier when your initial backup is hundreds of gb or more.

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So I got the drive from Crashplan, loaded it up, sent it back, they received it and now my daily backups are running as planned. Definitely a worthwhile addition to the whole backup plan, but also the very last backup you would want to access. Looks to me like that would require drives to be sent back to you. Online backup is slow.

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1. Make sure it's your last line of defense in a proper backup strategy with onsite and offsite backups being set up first. Then add the online for redundancy.

2. Go with CrashPlan and opt for them to send you a blank drive. Makes like sooooo much easier when your initial backup is hundreds of gb or more.
I like that method.

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Thanks for the good info.
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10-21-2010, 12:14 PM


Man I can relate to this thread. Someone used the universal key on my door also and made of with a few thousand dollars worth of things that I have sence replace but the one thing I could not replace was a portable hard drive with about 3 years worth of work on it. :( That thing was priceless to me or if I knew who took it the cost of a small led, never mind. LOL
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