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01-29-2009, 03:44 AM


Try Exposure Manager or something similar. You can have your galleries built on the fly at various resolutions, have them watermarked with text or graphics and only upon order do these get removed. You have control over the opacity and size of the watermarks too. Very inexpensive (yearly), especially with a coupon code.

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01-29-2009, 06:35 AM


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<snip>My rule is NEVER post a high rezolution version of anything on the net. 800 pixels max. Good luck getting decent quality above 4x6" with that.
There's a problem with that... we wouldn't print a 400x600 pixel image at 20x36, but some clients might try. The result would of course look absolutely terrible, and then every time a potential referral sees the picture, they think your work is fuzzy garbage.

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01-29-2009, 12:40 PM


Here is an idea. Online proofing, yet... have an account for them to login into. So that, you do not see the proofs unless you are logged into the website? I am not sure if there is anything out there already that can do this, but it is "technically" possible. Then, only share the proofs that you have already made your money off of public to the whole internet!
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01-29-2009, 01:03 PM


None of the suggestions stop the people from taking what they want if it is on the net. Not even a passworded sight. They client that has the password will screen print the images and put them on their site. We had a couple do that and didnt even bother to remove the copyright label across them. Only way to prevent it is to never put them online. No other way works.
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01-29-2009, 01:18 PM


If you think the simple PrtSc button is bad enough wait until you see programs like ZAPGRAB. This is one of many easy to use instant screen capture programs that will make your stomach turn.

Also don't forget that DPI plays a big part in resolution.

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01-29-2009, 01:27 PM


Solutions solutions...the market drives everything.

So you want to sell photos, well if everyone wants a CD and prints are a secondary determiner, then you will be forced to provide the CD, else go out of business.

There is a niche out there that values the old days of print proofs, prints, etc...; but your plastic banana good-time rock 'n roll crowd that lives in this entitlement generation wants the CD so they can send to every one right now on the internet so people can come back and tell them how good they look.

It no longer really is about posterity with the past two generations as much as it is "here are my latest photos, so look at me, right now RIGHT NOW DAMNIT!!!"

I just had a conversation with a rather new mother (she has been a wife for quite a while now) and she is pretty good with a camera (Chubbyfoot type stuff http://www.chubbyfoot.com/), but since she started taking photos in the first place for all her friends and being the type that cannot tell someone "no, I have a family commitment, etc...," she is almost ready to quit all photography because her family is suffering from not only her time away, but she is spending her own dollars on filling orders for people where all her work is pro bono. She is a homemaker, so only one income in the house. That all being said, she needs to start a business, or stop taking photos for every Jan, Jill and Jane that comes along and tells her her stuff looks great, "and will you take our picture this coming Saturday and get the pictures to me Sunday night so I can put them on my facebook account Monday from the free high res CD you give everyone?"

I think this young lady sees that priorities have always got to be in order and you must know your limitations.

Usually when you tell someone you are in business, they expect to pay; but when you walk around with the nice camera and lens, but don't have a business, people will suck you dry everytime, friends or not.

I told her to start a business, the right way with insurance, taxes, dba, and whatnot, and then take only the jobs she wants to do, has time to do around her family commitments as a wife and mother, etc.... I think I made the point clear that the wolves are hungry for photos on CDs and will nicely pay you NOTHING to get them.

I am out of the business now, but when people ask me to take their pictures, I don't commit to anything until I have talked to them a bit and ensured they know what all is involved. Additionally, I don't accept money outright, but if they drop a check in the mail, I don't send it back as well. I simply ensure I take only jobs with friends and family so that I can enjoy the time and if I don't deliver, there isn't any love lost.

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01-29-2009, 09:47 PM


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Can someone break pixels down barney style to me. Ovimo said 800 px max but the 8x10 pic I just printed was only 630px?
What I meant was 800 pixels max on the long side (say 600x800 pixels image) @72dpi (regular screen resolution).

If you try to print that into 8x10 it will look nothing like the original image.

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01-29-2009, 09:51 PM


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There's a problem with that... we wouldn't print a 400x600 pixel image at 20x36, but some clients might try. The result would of course look absolutely terrible, and then every time a potential referral sees the picture, they think your work is fuzzy garbage.
There should be a solution for this. Like warning the clients not to try and print from the web, or giving them small sized proofs marked as such as examples. But I see what you mean.

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01-29-2009, 09:53 PM


The dpi embedded in the file is completely ignored by the printer.. it takes the actual pixels and does what it has to in order to print it at the size instructed.

DPI *only* matters when an image is being rendered.. and is calculated by the device rendering it... the one embedded in the file is pretty useless... if you don't believe me, go into any full res image you have... change the dpi to 72 (but keep the actual pixels the same) and print it.. compare that to the one printed with 300dpi... show me the difference.

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01-30-2009, 01:58 PM


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Solutions solutions...the market drives everything.

So you want to sell photos, well if everyone wants a CD and prints are a secondary determiner, then you will be forced to provide the CD, else go out of business.

There is a niche out there that values the old days of print proofs, prints, etc...; but your plastic banana good-time rock 'n roll crowd that lives in this entitlement generation wants the CD so they can send to every one right now on the internet so people can come back and tell them how good they look.

It no longer really is about posterity with the past two generations as much as it is "here are my latest photos, so look at me, right now RIGHT NOW DAMNIT!!!"

I just had a conversation with a rather new mother (she has been a wife for quite a while now) and she is pretty good with a camera (Chubbyfoot type stuff http://www.chubbyfoot.com/), but since she started taking photos in the first place for all her friends and being the type that cannot tell someone "no, I have a family commitment, etc...," she is almost ready to quit all photography because her family is suffering from not only her time away, but she is spending her own dollars on filling orders for people where all her work is pro bono. She is a homemaker, so only one income in the house. That all being said, she needs to start a business, or stop taking photos for every Jan, Jill and Jane that comes along and tells her her stuff looks great, "and will you take our picture this coming Saturday and get the pictures to me Sunday night so I can put them on my facebook account Monday from the free high res CD you give everyone?"

I think this young lady sees that priorities have always got to be in order and you must know your limitations.

Usually when you tell someone you are in business, they expect to pay; but when you walk around with the nice camera and lens, but don't have a business, people will suck you dry everytime, friends or not.

I told her to start a business, the right way with insurance, taxes, dba, and whatnot, and then take only the jobs she wants to do, has time to do around her family commitments as a wife and mother, etc.... I think I made the point clear that the wolves are hungry for photos on CDs and will nicely pay you NOTHING to get them.

I am out of the business now, but when people ask me to take their pictures, I don't commit to anything until I have talked to them a bit and ensured they know what all is involved. Additionally, I don't accept money outright, but if they drop a check in the mail, I don't send it back as well. I simply ensure I take only jobs with friends and family so that I can enjoy the time and if I don't deliver, there isn't any love lost.

Dan...unless she is not sticking to her prices...she is not giving these away. There are lots of others tons cheaper than her....yeah, they are all on a cd, yeah she is good, but she is not giving them away by any means.

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