Looking for an Image Processing Computer

[dmcantrell]

Originally Posted by Rson

Not aggressive, just pointing out that your blanket statement is very inaccurate for a number of reasons.

Well, it seems I have my opinion and you have yours.

[Rson]

Originally Posted by ldelacruz

Rich,
$2000?

Depends. Little less though

[ldelacruz]

Don,
What us your other PC's specs? Brand, processor speed, RAM and operating system? You may not even need a new one?

[Rson]

yeah you can face lift it with more ram, larger processor(depending on chipset) and more space with another HD.

[srwatters]

+1

Originally Posted by dmcantrell

you're right i haven't met you, so i'm not exactly sure where the aggressive nature of your post comes from. I build all of my own computers as well, but i don't really have the energy to argue nitpicky points about computers on yet another internet forum. I can say with a fair amount of confidence that most home-builds are doomed to suffer from instability problems because the builder doesn't do their research on inter-component dependencies and conflicts. You may be the -exception- to that rule. -shrug-

for $470 the machine isn't a bad deal.

[ldelacruz]

Originally Posted by Rson

yeah you can face lift it with more ram, larger processor(depending on chipset) and more space with another HD.

I was thinking a reformat/re install the OS and maybe more RAM.

[bondarnes]

Originally Posted by ldelacruz

Don,
What us your other PC's specs? Brand, processor speed, RAM and operating system? You may not even need a new one?

Dell Dimension E520
Dual Intel Pentium IV 3.4 GHz
3 gig RAM (4gig max)
Windows XP Pro v.2002 sp3
Dual 160 gig 7200rpm HDD in Raid mirrored
Dual X600 256 MB HyperMemory
CD/DVD ROM
CD/DVD+-RW

[ldelacruz]

Originally Posted by bondarnes

Dell Dimension E520
Dual Intel Pentium IV 3.4 GHz
3 gig RAM (4gig max)
Windows XP Pro v.2002 sp3
Dual 160 gig 7200rpm HDD in Raid mirrored
Dual X600 256 MB HyperMemory
CD/DVD ROM
CD/DVD+-RW

Wow!!! That is an above average PC. Do you want to buy a new PC? If not, as helpful as you are on the forum I am sure someone could check it out for you to see if it is software related. Dell has a great utility to set it back to factory and I am almost certain you would be happy. Overtime the OS starts to slow down your performance. I know you have your pics backed up so all you would have to do is reinstall Lightroom and Photoshop after the reformat utility.

[TimmyTheTag]

Don,
+1 on building from scratch....Too bad you don't live near me here in Ohio. You buy the parts and I'd put it together for your for free. Just a little tutoring on your part to equal things out. Good luck though!

[dmcantrell]

Originally Posted by Rson

Not aggressive, just pointing out that your blanket statement is very inaccurate for a number of reasons. IMO, HP isn't buying the parts because of their "inter-component dependencies and conflicts(or lack there of)" it is because they are CHEAP. Nothing more nothing less. The listed computer is there to fit a price point not a quality niche.

Hello again,

This thread piqued my interest for a number of reasons. First, I used to work at HP when I first graduated from college, but the company has changed a lot since I worked there and I would be disappointed if the old "engineering" company I worked for had lost its way. Secondly, being a hardware engineer myself, I was concerned that I might be spreading mis-information inadvertently.

So, I contacted one of my old co-workers at Hewlett Packard and asked him this question. This is not a person in the marketing or public relations department, this is a hardware engineer. Here is his reply :

<name removed>,

I need to settle a discussion. My assertion is that "Hewlett Packard computers are regression tested to make sure that the components all work together and don't produce products with inter-component conflicts". My opponent says "HP chooses computer components based on price and could care less if they work together".

Can you find out if HP regression tests their computer components as part of their component shopping/choosing process?

Thanks,

Dave

What's up dave! hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

Oh yes, hp cares if stuff works together. We have a really big pain in the ass process of qualifying parts (includes regression) for our products. Only after that process can we even consider using a part for one of our systems.

It is fair to mention that we do care deeply about part cost. We like to qualify more than one supplier for a particular part so we can have them duke it out for our business by offering the lowest possible price ... ahhhh capitalism.

Let me know if you need anything else,

<name removed>

[bondarnes]

Here's another one I found for $800.00. It is new and not a refurb. It has Intel processor and is faster, but I can't find all the spec on it. The details were not listed. I'm looking for the most bang for my bucks.

Gateway DX4831-05 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 650 3.20GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce G310, Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - PT.GAJ02.013

[texkam]

Don't even get me started about HP. Some brief highlights from my encounter from hell: 1st computer, bad out of the box. Returned for a second, this one with a bad mother board finally confirmed by a level "whatever" tech after months of customer service hell. One HP person sharing with me, the customer, that another did not follow company procedure and guess what, he was wrong as well. Telling me they will ship to Irving for repair, sending packing slip for Jeffersonville, IN instead. Failing to tell me I could simply have it repaired where I bought it (an authorized HP repair center). After all this, the repair of the 2nd machine proved unsuccessful. 3 strikes and the retailer with no argument ("yeah, we had problems with those") swapped it out for a Gateway which has served me well. Maybe I was unlucky, but that doesn't account for the poor customer service and I don't care, we all hate our jobs attitude I received in abundance. YMMV.

[bondarnes]

Is this a better machine for the money at $549.00?

Base processor: Phenomll X4 820 (P) 2.8 GHz (95W)
# 4000 MHz HyperTransport 3.0
# Socket AM3
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Motherboard:
# Manufacturer: Pegatron
# Motherboard Name: M2N78-LA
# HP/Compaq motherboard name: Violet6-GL8E
Power supply: 300W
Memory Installed: 8GB
Hard drive:
# 1 TB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
# 5400 rpm
SuperMulti DVD Burner with LightScribe Technology drive:
# Interface: SATA
# Data buffer memory: 2 MB minimum
# LightScribe: yes
# Disc diameter: 120 mm
Wireless: 802.11 a/b/g/n PCI Express x1 wireless card
Video Graphics: Integrated on motherboard (see motherboard and chipset)
Sound/Audio:High Definition 8-channel audio
# ALC 888S chipset
Network (LAN): Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface
Memory card reader:
# Supports the following cards:
Compact Flash I
Compact Flash II
IBM Microdrive
Secure Digital (SD)
mini-SD
MultiMediaCard (MMC)
Reduced size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC)
MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC plus)
MultiMediaCard Mobile (MMC mobile)
Memory Stick
Memory Stick Pro
Memory Stick Duo
Memory Stick Pro Duo
SmartMedia
xD Picture Card (xD = extreme digital)


External I/O ports
# I/O ports on the front panel:
15-in-1 (4 slot) One
USB Two
Headphone One
Microphone One
# I/O ports on the back panel:
/PDIF out (coaxial) One
VGA One
DVI One
USB Four
1394a One
LAN One
Audio (side speaker out, rear speaker out, center/subwoofer-out , line-in, line-out, microphone) One Each


Expansion slots
PCI One (One available)
PCI Express x16 One (One available)
PCI Express x1 Two (One available)
PCI Express x1 minicard socket One (One available


Drive bays
5.25" Two (One available)
3.5" Three (Two available)

[Rson]

SIde by side the first one looks better....faster HD and better chipset.

Once again, parts chosen to fit the price. A 5400 RPM drive??? Really?

Mobo is decent, Pegtraon is a division of ASUS for OEM parts.

[bondarnes]

Originally Posted by Rson

SIde by side the first one looks better....faster HD and better chipset.

Once again, parts chosen to fit the price. A 5400 RPM drive??? Really?

Mobo is decent, Pegtraon is a division of ASUS for OEM parts.

Thanks, I appreciate the input.