Cross processing?

[kamekaze]

I found an old pop cam in a drawer and I was thinking what would happen if I ran a roll of slide film through it and processed it with negative chemicals? Pics to come soon :)

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So the camera is missing the foam piece that holds the film to the winder for the shutter. A sponge is going to be a bit to abrasive methinks, what kind of house hold solution would ya'll use to replace it?

[johnastovall]

Originally Posted by kamekaze

I found an old pop cam in a drawer and I was thinking what would happen if I ran a roll of slide film through it and processed it with negative chemicals? Pics to come soon :)

kamekaze added 6 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...Double Post Merged Below

So the camera is missing the foam piece that holds the film to the winder for the shutter. A sponge is going to be a bit to abrasive methinks, what kind of house hold solution would ya'll use to replace it?

I would use the correct product to replace it, light baffle foam. You can get it from Micro Tool. If you have questions about it give them a call.

[crackhead]

Just process the slide film as slide film. Cross-processing a roll of slide film is a waste of good slide film.

[venchka]

What is a Pop Cam anyway?

crackhead knows best.

[kamekaze]

Cheap, plastic, 4 different color plastic lenses, film winds the shutter and releases them one after another onto one frame.

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by venchka

crackhead knows best.

I don't even know where to begin. So wrong, so very wroooooooooong.

Beaver ?

Lumpy ?

Eddie Haskell ?????

[wclavey]

I guess I should just toss all these Fujichrome negatives I have that were cross-processed as B&W...

[johnastovall]

Originally Posted by kamekaze

Cheap, plastic, 4 different color plastic lenses, film winds the shutter and releases them one after another onto one frame.

That looks neat and then I assume you try to reconstruct a color image out of the four filter ones (assuming you shot B&W film).

[venchka]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

I don't even know where to begin. So wrong, so very wroooooooooong.

Beaver ?

Lumpy ?

Eddie Haskell ?????

crackhead is right about treating slide film properly.

Originally Posted by wclavey

I guess I should just toss all these Fujichrome negatives I have that were cross-processed as B&W...

Duh! Be sure and toss some of that FREE antique Fujichrome my way before you ruin all of it in Diafine.

Good news: I sent my Calumet film holder back for a refund.

Bad news: I sent my Calumet film holder back for a refund.

I'm debating if I should replace it. A roll film holder would work very nicely with the Linhof & Tominon 105mm lens.

[crackhead]

no offense to anybody who enjoys crossprocessed pictures. I just feel few people can do them well. Crossprocessed images just look cheapjack and garish and overdone.

[kamekaze]

Originally Posted by johnastovall

That looks neat and then I assume you try to reconstruct a color image out of the four filter ones (assuming you shot B&W film).

Nope, though that sounds pretty neat but I'm saving my last few rolls of B&W film for when my next kiddo is born (due date was monday, so it'll be soon). I'll have to give that a try next.

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Originally Posted by crackhead

no offense to anybody who enjoys crossprocessed pictures. I just feel few people can do them well. Crossprocessed images just look cheapjack and garish and overdone.

Kind of what Im going for. A friend from work has a couple of very grunge looking skating shots that came out really well.

[wclavey]

Originally Posted by venchka

crackhead is right about treating slide film properly.

Originally Posted by crackhead

no offense to anybody who enjoys crossprocessed pictures. I just feel few people can do them well. Crossprocessed images just look cheapjack and garish and overdone.

I think that it depends on what you do with them whether they look garish and overdone... I have several B&W prints from cross-processed film that you wouldn't know were cross-processed if I didn't tell you.

I think that cross-processing, just like the long line of other photographic devices (lith, HDR, IR, fisheye lenses, double exposures, etc.) can be used to make great pictures... but when you say "...that's a great [double exposure/IR/HDR/etc.]..." rather than "...that's a great picture..." then the point of the technique was missed and it becomes a cliche...

I am experimenting with cross-processing C-41 and E-6 because I have hundreds of exposures of expired E-6 and C-41 that I would like to be able to use effectively...

Cross-processed C-41 as B&W does have a grainier look to it - - like 35mm Tri-X that has been pushed... in my experince... perhaps it meets your vision, John.

[venchka]

Color film in B&W chemicals isn't what pops into most folks brain when the term "cross processed" is mentioned. E-6 in C-41 is "cross processed." And frowned on by the folks running the C-41 machine. Why not try E-6 daylight film in artificial light or better still, E-6 tungsten film in daylight. Or put a B&W color filter on the lens.

Wes, for $0.84 Walmart will develop your C-41 film correctly. You can decide at the scanning or printing stage how you want the photo to look. I have seen gorgeous platimum look alike prints from color film.

[crackhead]

for some reason Walmart charges something like $7 for develop/prints for one roll of 35mm C41. You can't specify 'process only' with 35mm C41.

[venchka]

I didn't know that. Wesley's antique film is 120 & 220 at $0.84/roll for C-41. E-6 slightly higher.