Sample Leica M9 and X1 images are up

[johnastovall]

DPReview has both up now.

M9

X1

[crackhead]

The early high ISO samples I've seen on the Web suggest that noise performance has improved modestly by about ~1 stop at ISO 1250 and 2500 compared to the M8. People shouldn't expect D3/5D high ISO performance from the M9, barring some improved noise processing algorithms via M9 firmware updates.

[johnastovall]

Originally Posted by crackhead

The early high ISO samples I've seen on the Web suggest that noise performance has improved modestly by about ~1 stop at ISO 1250 and 2500 compared to the M8. People shouldn't expect D3/5D high ISO performance from the M9, barring some improved noise processing algorithms via M9 firmware updates.

One always has Noise Ninja for those things....

[PeteQ]

Originally Posted by johnastovall

One always has Noise Ninja for those things....

Seriously, you're kidding right? At $7K+ by the time you put a lens on that M9 and we're touting the virtues of Noise Ninja to get 5D performance...

John, just out of curiosity, where is your Leica tattoo?

[S-Man]

You're quite the Leica zealot there, aren't you John?

[dryicerx]

those are two sexy looking bodies

[johnastovall]

Originally Posted by PeteQ

Seriously, you're kidding right? At $7K+ by the time you put a lens on that M9 and we're touting the virtues of Noise Ninja to get 5D performance...

John, just out of curiosity, where is your Leica tattoo?

Tattoos are just so declasse. Leica is in my heart.

johnastovall added 0 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...Double Post Merged Below

Originally Posted by S-Man

You're quite the Leica zealot there, aren't you John?

Better than other things....

[zebulus]

Wasnt it Cartier Bresson who made the Leica iconic?

[johnastovall]

Originally Posted by zebulus

Wasnt it Cartier Bresson who made the Leica iconic?

Along with Bob Capa, David Seymour (Chim), David Douglas Duncan, Alfred Eisenstadt, André Kertész, Yousuf Karsh.....

[groovyone]

Reichmann has a few in his review: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...m9-first.shtml

[S-Man]

Let me know one thing. I know I might get flamed for this, but I've seen how Canon Lenses are made and realize WHY they're somewhat expensive (which is a relative term).
Why are Leica lenses so darn 'expensive'? $4200 for a 35mm 1.4 MANUAL FOCUS!?

Trying to cover the whole focal range? Fuggedaboudit!

[ChuckW]

Originally Posted by S-Man

Let me know one thing. I know I might get flamed for this, but I've seen how Canon Lenses are made and realize WHY they're somewhat expensive (which is a relative term).
Why are Leica lenses so darn 'expensive'? $4200 for a 35mm 1.4 MANUAL FOCUS!?

Trying to cover the whole focal range? Fuggedaboudit!

Regarding the question of why Leica lenses are so expensive, here is a site that attempts to offer an explanation (an explanation that admittedly is partly objective and partly emotional):

http://www.stevehuffphotos.com/Steve...VE_A_SOUL.html

[zebulus]

Originally Posted by S-Man

Let me know one thing. I know I might get flamed for this, but I've seen how Canon Lenses are made and realize WHY they're somewhat expensive (which is a relative term).
Why are Leica lenses so darn 'expensive'? $4200 for a 35mm 1.4 MANUAL FOCUS!?

Trying to cover the whole focal range? Fuggedaboudit!

Well, they are hand made in germany. Plus they say Leica on them. That little leica seal costs like $3,000 all by itself!

[S-Man]

Well on DPReview, they have a Leica factory tour. After viewing that and seeing the extensive calibrating and testing they do with a body, I can kind of understand the $8k M9 price tag. But I haven't seen how the lenses are made. They are a bit smaller than conventional lenses (right?) and the glass certainly looks smaller. Plus, they're manual focus. I'd like to know what's behind this other than a designer name.

[crackhead]

Originally Posted by ChuckW

Regarding the question of why Leica lenses are so expensive, here is a site that attempts to offer an explanation (an explanation that admittedly is partly objective and partly emotional):

http://www.stevehuffphotos.com/Steve...VE_A_SOUL.html

that dude is a fool, and from his words you can surmise he has bought 100% into the myth.