Nikon Confirms a 3rd New Camera in 2012

[Tom]

Nikon confirms third new DSLR incoming - SlashGear

Won't say what it is or features. Could be low end, could be a successor to D700 or D300s.

[mchong75]

Originally Posted by Tom

Nikon confirms third new DSLR incoming - SlashGear

Won't say what it is or features. Could be low end, could be a successor to D700 or D300s.

I would think D800 is the successor to D700.....

[Tom]

Originally Posted by mchong75

D800 is the successor to D700.....

Kinda. Not every D700 user wants something with 3x as many pixels and noise performance that isn't really improved (most people that have used it have said that it is on par with the D700.) It is definitely an entirely new beast, and I could definitely see a D700s released with the same 16MP chip that the D4 has.

D800 is more similar to the D3x without a built in grip than the D700, spec wise.

[mchong75]

I disagree..

Just because people don't like the high megapixel of D800 and the added new features doesn't mean its not a D700 successor. Technology has to evolve in order to attract current and new customers and stay ahead of competition.

5D Mark I = 12.8 MP
5D Mark II = 21 MP

So, was 5D II not the successor to 5D Mark I due to higher MP?

As far as the third DSLR, I would highly guestimate it'll be a D300s update.

[PHOTO-DA]

The 800 doesn't use CF cards but the smaller types which is one reason that I think there will be a 700A or such that will use CF cards- really PEOPLE have quite a bit of $$ tied up in CF cards and if NIKON thinks that they can keep them buying new bodies and not offer CF slots they are making a big mistake!

I like the info that I have read about the 800 but the NO CF capability is making me think NO on that body and since they have stopped production on the 700 that just doesn't leave much to choose from from NIKON now.

I just don't like the smaller cards-to easy to mishandle in my book!

[mchong75]

Originally Posted by PHOTO-DA

The 800 doesn't use CF cards but the smaller types which is one reason that I think there will be a 700A or such that will use CF cards- really PEOPLE have quite a bit of $$ tied up in CF cards and if NIKON thinks that they can keep them buying new bodies and not offer CF slots they are making a big mistake!

I like the info that I have read about the 800 but the NO CF capability is making me think NO on that body and since they have stopped production on the 700 that just doesn't leave much to choose from from NIKON now.

I just don't like the smaller cards-to easy to mishandle in my book!

Don,

D800 has a CF and SD card slot.

[Snarfy]

Originally Posted by mchong75

I disagree..

Just because people don't like the high megapixel of D800 and the added new features doesn't mean its not a D700 successor. Technology has to evolve in order to attract current and new customers and stay ahead of competition.

5D Mark I = 12.8 MP
5D Mark II = 21 MP

So, was 5D II not the successor to 5D Mark I due to higher MP?

As far as the third DSLR, I would highly guestimate it'll be a D300s update.

The D700 is a master of low light, shoots relatively fast FPS, and doesn't feature a crazy amount of MP (which contributes to the low light sensitivity). In essence, the D700 is a feature-reduced version of the flagship D3/D3S/D4.

The D3/D3S/D4 cameras are all masters of low light, shoot blindingly fast FPS, and do not feature a lot of megapixels (which contributes to the low light sensitivity.

The D3X is a sharpness monster with a sensor that has significantly more resolution than the previous flagship D3S, slower FPS, and considerably weaker low light sensitivity.

The D800 is sharpness monster with a sensor that has significantly more resolution than the flagship D4, slower FPS, and considerably weaker low light sensitivity.

So, Tom is right. Spec-wise, the D800 is more like a D3X. Nikon has obviously undergone a paradigm shift for the product line, so the D800 fits in where the D700 was in cost, but not in spec value. The 5D > 5DII was an evolution of the camera in almost every aspect, not just MPs; don't focus on singular details.

[Nikonfan]

Nikon Rumors has referenced the three new bodies. After seeing the improvement from the D90 to the D7000 I can't wait to see what the D300s replacement will be like!

Nikon will announce three more DSLR cameras in 2012 | Nikon Rumors

[groovyone]

I am betting D300s replacement.

[mchong75]

Originally Posted by Snarfy

The D700 is a master of low light, shoots relatively fast FPS, and doesn't feature a crazy amount of MP (which contributes to the low light sensitivity). In essence, the D700 is a feature-reduced version of the flagship D3/D3S/D4.

The D3/D3S/D4 cameras are all masters of low light, shoot blindingly fast FPS, and do not feature a lot of megapixels (which contributes to the low light sensitivity.

The D3X is a sharpness monster with a sensor that has significantly more resolution than the previous flagship D3S, slower FPS, and considerably weaker low light sensitivity.

The D800 is sharpness monster with a sensor that has significantly more resolution than the flagship D4, slower FPS, and considerably weaker low light sensitivity.

So, Tom is right. Spec-wise, the D800 is more like a D3X. Nikon has obviously undergone a paradigm shift for the product line, so the D800 fits in where the D700 was in cost, but not in spec value. The 5D > 5DII was an evolution of the camera in almost every aspect, not just MPs; don't focus on singular details.

Well, Thom Hogan and few other well known Nikon shooters think it is...

D800 versus D700. Do me a favor. Forget about the sensor. Pretend for a moment that they have the same exact sensor, but all the other features stay the same for each model. Which one do you want? Right. Thought so. The notion that the D800 isn't an upgrade for D700 users is mistaken. It is. Clearly it is (video, exposure, focus, new menu features, better Live View, etc.).

[Snarfy]

Originally Posted by mchong75

Well, Thom Hogan and few other well known Nikon shooters think it is...

Wanna see a magic trick with umbrella statements?

"D800 versus D700. Do me a favor. Forget about the sensor. Pretend for a moment that they have the same exact sensor, but all the other features stay the same for each model. Which one do you want? Right. Thought so. The notion that the D800 isn't an upgrade for D700 users is mistaken. It is. Clearly it is (video, exposure, focus, new menu features, better Live View, etc.)."

"D800 versus D50. Do me a favor. Forget about the sensor. Pretend for a moment that they have the same exact sensor, but all the other features stay the same for each model. Which one do you want? Right. Thought so. The notion that the D800 isn't an upgrade for D50 users is mistaken. It is. Clearly it is (video, exposure, focus, new menu features, better Live View, etc.)."

"D800 versus F2. Do me a favor. Forget about the sensor. Pretend for a moment that they have the same exact sensor, but all the other features stay the same for each model. Which one do you want? Right. Thought so. The notion that the D800 isn't an upgrade for F2 users is mistaken. It is. Clearly it is (video, exposure, focus, new menu features, better Live View, etc.)."

The D800 is Nikon's newest camera. It it towards the top of the line, and ergo, it is the most feature-loaded camera. It compares as a highly feature-loaded camera when compared with ANY AND ALL old Nikon cameras!

Now, in relevant context, the D800's sensor and features are more in line with the D3X than the D4. Being as the D700's sensor and features are more in line with the D3, then it isn't a huge step in logic to claim that the D800 is "kinda" a successor.

Tom's claim that Nikon still has room for a D700-esque camera that features the sensor and feature technologies of the D4, rather than the D3X, is accurate (in my opinion).

[brewercm]

It wouldn't be inconceivable to come out with a D400 fx with an 18 to 24mp sensor since the D7000 was so close to the D300s already. Even surpassing in some eyes.

[ualymerej]

Originally Posted by brewercm

It wouldn't be inconceivable to come out with a D400 fx with an 18 to 24mp sensor since the D7000 was so close to the D300s already. Even surpassing in some eyes.

I think I would like this to be the case. It does make sense though... the cost of building a FX camera has to have gone down since the D700 first arrived, so they may shift the D400 up to a FX with a price point between the D300s and the D800. And as you pointed out, the D7000 (and it's replacement) could take the place of the Nikon higher end DX offering.

D3XXX - beginner dx
D5XXX - mid dx
D7XXX - upper dx
D400 - lower fx
D800 - high mp fx
D4 - high fx

so would they even bother with a D4x?

[mchong75]

Originally Posted by ankaka

I'm thinking about buying a Nikon D700. However, there are numerous rumors about the Nikon D800 coming out soon. I'm not chasing technology, but if we're close to a product cycle, I might be patient enough to wait. Any advice?

It's already announced. It'll be March (D800 - Nikon D800 SLR Digital Camera (Body Only) 25480 B&H Photo Video) and April (D800E - Nikon D800E SLR Digital Camera (Body Only) 25498 B&H Photo Video) for the ship date if you per order now.

[groovyone]

Originally Posted by brewercm

It wouldn't be inconceivable to come out with a D400 fx with an 18 to 24mp sensor since the D7000 was so close to the D300s already. Even surpassing in some eyes.

Since most Nikons use Sony sensors I would not be surprised by a 24MP APS-C D400 using the A77/NEX-7 sensor.