Follow us on Twitter!
Follow us on Facebook!
 

Go Back   Pixtus - Photography Forum, Photographers, Photo Tips > Photography Information > Equipment Talk


How often to format memory cards?

This is a discussion on How often to format memory cards? within the Equipment Talk forums, part of the Photography Information category; Bill - there seems to be something wrong with the link. Getting a 500 internal server error....

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#16) Old
Senior Member
 
acer0001's Avatar
 
Posts: 289
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Austin,
Real First Name: John
Camera: Canon 350D
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-03-2006, 09:40 PM


Bill - there seems to be something wrong with the link. Getting a 500 internal server error.

---------------------------
John
www.image-one-photography.com/gallery
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
  (#17) Old
Uber Poster
 
suzyjazz's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,903
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
Real First Name: Suzy
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 2

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-03-2006, 09:57 PM


I reformat every time. Why? Because it is SO much faster than deleting everything. ON a 2 GB card it makes a difference.

---------------------------
Suzy
http://www.suzyeide.com
Missing my greyhound
* Spay/neuter your pets! *
Canon 7D and 20D
Reply With Quote
  (#18) Old
Senior Member
 
petert's Avatar
 
Posts: 355
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, TX,
Real First Name: Peter, Pete, Hey stupid!
Camera: Nikon D70 & D200
Can Others Edit My Photos: No
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-03-2006, 10:11 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
Here is Rob Galbraith's take on CompactFlash card lifespan at
Correcting the link:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...e.asp?cid=6007

or

link

---------------------------
Peter Turner - LightWurx Media - Austin, TX
Reply With Quote
  (#19) Old
Forum Regular
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Posts: 694
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dallas,
Real First Name: Bill
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-03-2006, 10:53 PM


Thanks for dropping the : that got caught in the url, Peter. I've corrected it in my post, above, too.
Reply With Quote
  (#20) Old
Member
 
jumpinminnow's Avatar
 
Posts: 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Friendswood, Texas
Real First Name: Russell
Camera: Nikon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
Question - 04-19-2006, 03:17 PM


[QUOTE=brad]
In other words, there is no real difference between formatting a card and deleting everything.

QUOTE]

I just came upon this thread last night. I reffered to my KM manual and they don't address a regualr reformat at all, but I intend to start especially as I share cards between camera models. I'm curious though if there's no difference between deleting and reformatting then why are images recoverable after deleting but not after reformatting? It seems to me some data has to be left behind in order to recover it.

---------------------------
Russell Brown
Friendswood, TX
http://www.pbase.com/jumpinminnow
Nikon D300 / Tokina 12-24 / Nikkor 24-85 AF-S / Nikkor 70-200 VR
Reply With Quote
  (#21) Old
You Can't Be Serious!!
 
brad's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,314
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW, Texas
Real First Name: Brad (duh)
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 12

Likes Received LIKES Received: 136
Likes Given LIKES Given: 33
04-19-2006, 03:38 PM


Data is still available after reformatting .. unless you do a low level format... and even then, its still possible.

---------------------------
Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits
Honest critiques always welcomed.
An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903
Reply With Quote
  (#22) Old
Moderator
 
snidow's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,259
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North Texas, Texas
Real First Name: Laurie
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: No
iTrader Rating: 4

Likes Received LIKES Received: 9
Likes Given LIKES Given: 11
04-19-2006, 07:52 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by johnastovall
I reformat my cards as soon as I've copied all the images to the mac and burned two back up DVD's.

Same here except for the mac, still on a pc.

---------------------------
Laurie
Canon Stuff
Honest critique always welcomed and requested.

Gallery
Reply With Quote
  (#23) Old
Senior Member
 
Vernon Theis's Avatar
 
Posts: 345
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Antonio (HCV),
Real First Name: Vernon
Camera: D3 D2h
iTrader Rating: 1

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-19-2006, 08:17 PM


My routine:

1. Pics to hard drive.
2. Pics to DVD within minutes of #1.
3. Format in camera. Never before #2.
4. Monthly all go to external HD kept off site.

Anybody know the answer to the real question asked.....does the cycle of write/delete/write/delete/write/delete .................a plethora of times make it any more likely that data storage or reteival failure occur due to the fragmentation that ocurrs???

I suspect not.

Is this all academic and of no consequence?

---------------------------
www.pbase.com/vernix

"Stop the insanity! When will men quit killing each other over conflicting superstitions?"
Me. 1/2009
Reply With Quote
  (#24) Old
You Can't Be Serious!!
 
brad's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,314
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW, Texas
Real First Name: Brad (duh)
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 12

Likes Received LIKES Received: 136
Likes Given LIKES Given: 33
04-19-2006, 09:47 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vernon Theis
Anybody know the answer to the real question asked.....does the cycle of write/delete/write/delete/write/delete .................a plethora of times make it any more likely that data storage or reteival failure occur due to the fragmentation that ocurrs???

I suspect not.

Is this all academic and of no consequence?
I think that the answer to the orignal question is "Yes" .. but I think the number of times it has to happen is large enough that it won't be an issue within most camera's lifetime.

---------------------------
Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits
Honest critiques always welcomed.
An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903
Reply With Quote
  (#25) Old
Member
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Posts: 53
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Garland,
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-19-2006, 11:39 PM


[QUOTE=jumpinminnow]
Quote:
Originally Posted by brad
In other words, there is no real difference between formatting a card and deleting everything.

QUOTE]

I just came upon this thread last night. I reffered to my KM manual and they don't address a regualr reformat at all, but I intend to start especially as I share cards between camera models. I'm curious though if there's no difference between deleting and reformatting then why are images recoverable after deleting but not after reformatting? It seems to me some data has to be left behind in order to recover it.
So when you do an in camera format all you are actually doing is deleting a small file on the card called a FAT or File Allocation Table that lists where all the data for each file is on the card. Kind of like throwing away the index for a collection. Until you write something new over those locations the data is still valid and a file recovery program can probably find it and stitch it back together through some cunning algorithms. If you delete images you are telling the FAT to treat those storage areas as empty. Again they are "safe" until something new is written over the top.

---------------------------
http://www.danasoft.com/sig/AASC1.jpg

Last edited by AndrewC; 04-19-2006 at 11:41 PM..
Reply With Quote
  (#26) Old
You Can't Be Serious!!
 
brad's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,314
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW, Texas
Real First Name: Brad (duh)
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 12

Likes Received LIKES Received: 136
Likes Given LIKES Given: 33
04-19-2006, 11:49 PM


Right, Andrew.

When it comes to hard drives, there are "formatting" utilities out there that will physically write a 0 to every bit on the drive... but that seems like overkill for a CF card. :)

---------------------------
Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits
Honest critiques always welcomed.
An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903
Reply With Quote
  (#27) Old
Member
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Posts: 53
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Garland,
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
04-19-2006, 11:55 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by brad
Right, Andrew.

When it comes to hard drives, there are "formatting" utilities out there that will physically write a 0 to every bit on the drive... but that seems like overkill for a CF card. :)
... and even repeatedly write 0's and 1's to completely clear vestigial magnetic memory for the truly paranoid. Personally I prefer a sledgehammer to completely render old hard drives unreadable. They are actually quite hard to kill :)

---------------------------
http://www.danasoft.com/sig/AASC1.jpg
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cards, format, memory

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Visit Our Sponsors
 

Google Sponsors

Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.

Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.