5DMKII Does Weddings

[Jake]

Originally Posted by boxofrocks

I"m just saying you'd be better off buying the right tool for the job. One size fits all rarely fits anyone perfectly.

Don't take offense--it's cool. I've seen video off of the D90, and it's great, too. If you're a wedding photog that wants to use his L lenses and shoot video without sound, then it's up your alley. I just don't think it's practical. At that resolution, your L lenses won't shine as much as you think, though.

My point is this tool is pretty much the only tool that can shoot 1080p with a f/1.2 lens, or tilt/shift or whatever that's not crazy expensive.
So please show me the right tool that can do that.

And it's not an issue of the "L" shining at that resolution, it's being able to control DOF with the "L's" that make this thing so cool.
For the independent film maker, this will be cool to add to their tool box.
For wedding photographers that just want to do a highlight reel/slideshow of the day, this will be awesome.
There is no way I would bring the type of video camera it takes to shoot the same level of video the 5DII does to a wedding. But I sure will take a 5D or two.
I would never try to use these to make "the wedding video" but to enhance my existing coverage with a highlight reel that matches the album.

In a few years, every DSLR will have this feature.
So it's just a matter of who learns to how to make money with it

[Crashoran]

I think it would be difficult for me to learn how to create videos properly, or maybe they should now implement video into still photography degrees now?

[zeroendless]

Originally Posted by AndrewCCM

BTW: If you export a still from the video it will be a 1080P still. 1920x1440

Basically, a 3-4mpix image (if captured via video clip). If you do as Jim mentions, it'll be full 21mpix res.

Video output is 1920x1080p, about 2mp.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Crashoran

..........or maybe they should now implement video into still photography degrees now?

Actually, yes they should. The future of photojournalism is probably going to require the knowledge of both still's and video.
But I could be wrong about that

[luis_relampago]

The possibilities are endless, the camera is awesome, if you want to be a puritan and shoot only stills good for you!! If I want to add an awesome option to my wedding packages like this short video clip and make the extra cash GOOD FOR ME!!

This is not about the endless discussion on C vs N is just about an awesome camera with awesome features that both big dogs have to offer to their consumers.

God Bless!!

[esanchez]

I don't know if I can include this question in this post. BUt let say once we start buying the 5D Mark II, would would be the best way to playback the video to my TV or a customers TV???

Buy a blue ray burner for the PC and player for my TV??? Would that be the simple obvious answer???

[AndrewCCM]

Originally Posted by zeroendless

Video output is 1920x1080p, about 2mp.

http://vimeo.com/2053280

I originally thought the same on the size, then edited my message after I looked at this link and read the cinematographers notes which stated 1920x1440.

Also, my guess on the megpix was based on a 3.2mpix camera that outputs (2,048 x 1,536)... So it's close to 3, if the dimensions are accurate.


BTW: I usually agree with Tom (boxofrocks), but in this case (after shooting video for several years professionally), I disagree completely. Well...maybe not completely. I wouldn't use it in the manner in which the other video depicted. But, for making short films, documentaries (basically anything scripted), this camera could easily replace what used to cost 25k-50k cameras. At this point in time, there is nothing that can compete with this technology for anywhere close to the price.

[zeroendless]

Originally Posted by esanchez

I don't know if I can include this question in this post. BUt let say once we start buying the 5D Mark II, would would be the best way to playback the video to my TV or a customers TV???

Buy a blue ray burner for the PC and player for my TV??? Would that be the simple obvious answer???

Simple but broad question really, i think the video formats and display compatibility are a mess, there's no definite question to it when it comes to holly grail 1080p playback.

Use PC to display. The most simplest way i would do it is having a laptor carry with me for in home or client demo but i would worry about client connectivity if their display only has component input and doesn't sync on green. You can use your laptor, pc, macs to playback the raw mov 1080p recorded films straight from camera effortlessly with VLC.

2nd option is having a multimedia player that's capable of playback hd media files such as the raw recorded file itself or AVC, WMV HD, Mpeg4, mkv in hd format to get the video output at its full potential. Those multimedia stream/player are rather small and you can carry it over client site for demo. But what's the point, a laptor would be more easier for the task.

For personal usages, you can't beat ps3, it's the best Blu-Ray out there and can stream or play wmv hd or AVC hd in 1080p format as well. You don't have to burn the videos into compatible Blu-ray videos disc, but you have to convert it into compatible format. I have Vincent Laforet's raw clips converted to 1080 AVC mp4 formats and ps3 read them just fine. The creamy bokeh, exceptional details and noise-free taken at high iso motion captures; resulted from the high quality glasses, are speechless even displaying at a huge 106-inch screen.

If I were to offer video for wedding biz with 5-d mark II, i would look into a BR-burner. Offering client a legacy DVD-video format and optional BD format , charge them an arm and two legs for the latter. Advertise my Still photography biz with optional full 1080 motion capture with Blu-ray videos offer, distance the competition a bit :) Thus a BD-burner is still needed, you can't expect your clients to go though all the geek-set up to get the videos on their TV.

So a laptor with BR-burner should do.

[zeroendless]

Originally Posted by AndrewCCM

http://vimeo.com/2053280

I originally thought the same on the size, then edited my message after I looked at this link and read the cinematographers notes which stated 1920x1440.

Thk for the link,

That's interesting Andrew, I remember it's only 1920x1080 straight from the camera from Vincent blog and the raw footage is indicating 1920x1080 on premiere pro 4 as well.

[boxofrocks]

Originally Posted by AndrewCCM

http://vimeo.com/2053280

I originally thought the same on the size, then edited my message after I looked at this link and read the cinematographers notes which stated 1920x1440.

Also, my guess on the megpix was based on a 3.2mpix camera that outputs (2,048 x 1,536)... So it's close to 3, if the dimensions are accurate.


BTW: I usually agree with Tom (boxofrocks), but in this case (after shooting video for several years professionally), I disagree completely. Well...maybe not completely. I wouldn't use it in the manner in which the other video depicted. But, for making short films, documentaries (basically anything scripted), this camera could easily replace what used to cost 25k-50k cameras. At this point in time, there is nothing that can compete with this technology for anywhere close to the price.

Looks like I'm wrong about this. I didn't say it because I shoot Nikon, though. I just didn't see it as being practical. I think it has a niche, but I just saw it as more of a marketing tool that is cool than a real videographers solution.

I'm not hatin, just sayin.

[AndrewCCM]

I think that if the output is/was shoddy, it sure could be nothing more than a marketing tool. However, if indeed the output is such as been posted in a few places, it will have it's niche. I think the real interesting thing is the fact that this is really version 1.0. Surely, they will learn from their mistakes and improve upon the technology.

Having said all this...for years, I expected there to be a convergence.. But the funny thing is, I always thought it would be pulling high quality stills from a video camera...Not vice versa. Obviously, I was short sided in my predictions. But I am very happy that if this does come to fruition in a solid platform, that it does come from an SLR base.

[Wes]

Very very cool. Plus, the bride is hot. ;-)

[Jim Victory]

Another video.

http://www.vimeo.com/2123276

[AndrewCCM]

Well produced video..

My question is... I am wanting to see some motion with the camera. If you notice, everything in these videos are locked down at specific focal lengths (not that there is anything wrong with that). Most scripted shorts/movies are done that way with marks for actors, etc...

My guess, is that this camera's video capabilities will be great for cinematic style of shooting. It's obvious by these samples that it will be. However, for your typical camcorder type of walk around shooting, I don't see it as a replacement or even a good solution. Of course, you could learn to follow focus manually...I did that with ENG video cameras for years...

In other words, the video capabilities will be incredible for those that know how to best utilize them. But for the casual video shooter, I think it'll be a novelty that doesn't get used much.

FWIW.

[kdloftis]

I can't wait to order mine!