Pixtus - Photography Forum, Photographers, Photo Tips

Snarfy · 09-16-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SergeiR

So. What generation we talking about? :)

Millennials/Y's and transitional Mill/Y's

SergeiR · 09-16-2011, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snarfy

Millennials/Y's and transitional Mill/Y's

so, basically people who are 30-40 now. So not teens. And you really honestly believe that whole generation dont have attention span to do any academic studies? Despite the fact that about 36% (30-40, varies per countries) of adult population across all "developed" countries have been through postgrad school or even higher education? Granted, in US only 4.5% of population are students, and in most of countries across the pond its 6%, but still.

I just dont think that general level of people in my generation is that bad. I still can read books without needing to take a break all the time :)

Its like those labels on hair driers.. "dont use while in shower"..( I mean - really? Isnt it time to trim the herd a bit?)They are there for a reason, i am sure. But i wouldnt say that every single person needs it.

Then again. Judging by amount of people who cant simply type words in search boxes or got banned on google or cant read even camera manual - may be you right.. May be people are getting stupider...

SergeiR · 01:33 PM

Anyway.. back to original question:

You can get by with portrable flashes for a while, at least for experiments.

If you will want to do some serious stuff with light and fight with sun (its TX after all) - you might want to look into portable studio solutions (hensel porty, ab + vagabond, elinchrom ranger/quadra, proFoto air).

Transmitters/recievers - cheap triggers like cactus v4/5. Phottix TTL ones...

Serious ones are Skyports and Pocket Wizards. Might not have TTL but got very good distance / consistency .

Easiest transfer if you feel like having TTL and you dont mind having flashes within visible area: get yourself SU400 and another SB600 or 900 (better).

Tom · 09-16-2011, 03:16 PM

This thread has too many words and not enough pictures.

crazeazn · 09-16-2011, 03:55 PM

less trash talking about gen Y <3

Snarfy · 09-16-2011, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SergeiR

so, basically people who are 30-40 now. So not teens. And you really honestly believe that whole generation dont have attention span to do any academic studies? Despite the fact that about 36% (30-40, varies per countries) of adult population across all "developed" countries have been through postgrad school or even higher education? Granted, in US only 4.5% of population are students, and in most of countries across the pond its 6%, but still.

I just dont think that general level of people in my generation is that bad. I still can read books without needing to take a break all the time :)

Its like those labels on hair driers.. "dont use while in shower"..( I mean - really? Isnt it time to trim the herd a bit?)They are there for a reason, i am sure. But i wouldnt say that every single person needs it.

Then again. Judging by amount of people who cant simply type words in search boxes or got banned on google or cant read even camera manual - may be you right.. May be people are getting stupider...

The Gen Y/Millennial Generation is roughly defined as having been born between the late 1970's and mid 1990's, so people loosely in the age range of 16-33 (with the x/y transitionals somewhere around 27-35). My claim isn't that we're a stupid generation, nor that we're incapable of academic studies. Rather, as a group we have grown to see the digital age form around us so that we have quick access to information in a variety of easily digestible forms at all times. As a result, we can be considered a more diverse, more intelligent, more connected, and better prepared generation (though, at the expense of being dependent on electronic devices and social technologies to discover and share knowledge).

I never said we're a bunch of sycophantic morons jumping into showers with hair dryers. I never said we can't read books. I'm saying that books are things we read more for leisure, rather than reference now. Why? Because a referential PDF can contain both internal and external links, videos, and can be viewed on my phone. The widespread availability of blogs and informative youtube videos does not make us stupid, it makes us need less analog material. Google has transformed society so that we spend a lot less time digging through journals and encyclopedias. We answer questions faster, we hear about world news immediately. The scope of available data has trained us to expect quick, concise, and direct information when needed.

That expectation is what I meant by having a "shorter attention span." Not mental deficiency.

@ the OP, you might seriously look into getting your hands on a cheaper manual flash (used SB or LumoPro LP120/160) and a set of triggers. The cheap chinese triggers have gotten surprisingly good. Get a good understanding of the setup, and then delve into the inexpensive/DIY light mods.