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Watch out, MPix Pro TOS contains blatent rights grab

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07-27-2009, 12:42 PM


it would seem that the outcry has resulted in a tweet from MPIX Pro

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07-27-2009, 12:58 PM


So it was a copy/paste error.

I still think even in the case their web-hosting service, those TOS are onerous and should be clarified. Terms such as 'sub-license', 'create derivative works', etc should not be in there without at the very least explicitly stating the conditions under which those rights apply. But lawyers tend to prefer overly-broad boilerplate terms that err on the side of taking too much for their clients rather than the other way around. It's good that they've fixed this for their printing services, but I still wouldn't use their hosting service with such broad, vaguely specific rights in the TOS.

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07-27-2009, 01:09 PM


I think everyone is just twitchy from flickers crap.

Millers has an excellent reputation, which is why that seems odd to me.
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I think it pays to be diligent anyway. Glad they got it cleared up.

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07-27-2009, 02:26 PM


If companies would write their TOS in layman terms, with links to the legal jargon translation, a lot of the misunderstandings would be cleared up. I have a hard time understanding the legalese and shouldn't have to hire an attorney just to interpret something for me before I use a printing, hosting, or storage provider. Besides all that, it's almost like they try to make it so long and dry that nobody reads through it all.
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I think everyone is just twitchy from flickers crap.

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What about Flickr's crap???

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What about Flickr's crap???
there was an issue with flickr a while back that basically said they get to use any photo you upload forever...even after you've deleted it...all for their purposes

at least that's what I think it was...I can't remember exactly
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there was an issue with flickr a while back that basically said they get to use any photo you upload forever...even after you've deleted it...all for their purposes

at least that's what I think it was...I can't remember exactly
That's about right, and that's when I stopped using Flickr.

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07-27-2009, 10:05 PM


And Miller's has realized their mistake and is trying to correct it.

They do have to have some rights in order to display your images... and some lawyer went too far and no one called them on it.

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