A Leica Won't Improve Your PhotographyThis is a discussion on A Leica Won't Improve Your Photography within the Open Talk forums, part of the General Information category; Not only is this an article from "The Online Photographer", but it's about Leicas. I wonder why John hasn't posted ... 1Likes -
1 Post By Dobick
(#1)
| | tone-bending bas%@rd
Posts: 6,648 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Jeff Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 32 LIKES Given: 22 | A Leica Won't Improve Your Photography -
09-11-2009, 01:07 PM
Not only is this an article from "The Online Photographer", but it's about Leicas. I wonder why John hasn't posted a link yet? http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...otography.html Quote: |
My problem with Leica is that for the overwhelming number of photographers, they're not good value—not even good Veblen value. I worry that people who are serious about photography, in the earlier stages of their interest, can be led to believe that Leicas will improve their work, to their great cost and disappointment. There's a reason few professionals use Leicas, and that's that the Leicas are not as good at producing professional-level shots as a DSLR. Almost any DSLR.
| (Sorry, I couldn't resist with all the Leica talk lately. All in good fun. That said, the article is actually more balanced than the title and above quote might lead you to believe.)
--------------------------- Jeff Kohn | The Majestic Landscape | Blog | More Images "The capacity to compose images is really the capacity to give coherence to sensed experience" - Robert Motherwell
Last edited by jeffkohn; 09-11-2009 at 01:25 PM..
Reason: typo
| | | | | Sponsored Links | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
|
(#2)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 2,175 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater San Antonio area, San Diego, CA &, Texas Real First Name: Ken Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 7 LIKES Given: 7 |
09-11-2009, 01:09 PM
I think he's still trying to figure out if Leica makes bicycles... | | | |
(#3)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 11,944 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas Real First Name: John Camera: 5DMkII, 7D, LX3 Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 24 LIKES Received: 115 LIKES Given: 435 |
09-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Very balanced. While I have thought that shooting with a Leica (or any RF) might be fun and different, I've never actually thought that my images would improve. Only the experience would be different from shooting with a DSLR—possibly different enough to keep me intrigued. Who knows? Maybe I'll pick up or rent a used film Leica one day just to try it.
Thanks for posting this, Jeff.
--------------------------- Everyone wants to be a rock star, but no one wants to learn the chords. | | | |
(#4)
| | The Sony Alpha Mod
Posts: 8,670 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dickinson, Texas Real First Name: Keith Camera: Sony A900/A100/NEX-7 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 5 LIKES Received: 388 LIKES Given: 564 |
09-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Good post.
I do not expect that I'd get better photos with one, but I cant hlp but wonder if I'd enjoy photography more. It also fits my shooting style more.
--------------------------- Sony|SonyIR|Sony NEX|Minolta Film|Polaroid
If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
"No one cares how hard you worked...but they will notice if you didn't work hard enough." -Ctein
Last edited by groovyone; 09-11-2009 at 01:32 PM..
| | | |
(#5)
| | Rest in peace John...
Posts: 10,238 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dublin, TX, Real First Name: Stovall Camera: Leica M8/Leica X1/Canon 1DsMkIII/Canon 5DMkII/Leica M7/Leicaflex SL2/Ricoh GR-DIII Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 17 LIKES Received: 1 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-11-2009, 01:29 PM
John Camp is correct. He is also a great writer and painter.
I suggest everyone should give one of his Prey novels a read.
A Leica will not make you a great photographer but can give you great pleasure in the creation of images. Rather like a Jaguar won't make you another Sterling Moss but can sure make the drive to work more fun.
I rather surprised he drive a Benz. His alter ego, Lucas Davenport drives a Porsche.
As for the other, see my sig. 
--------------------------- "The market wants a Leica to be a Leica: the inheritor of tradition, the subject of lore, and indisputably a mark of status to own." Mike Johnston
Last edited by johnastovall; 09-11-2009 at 01:32 PM..
| | | |
(#6)
| | tone-bending bas%@rd
Posts: 6,648 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Jeff Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 32 LIKES Given: 22 |
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
I think the takeaway is that some tools are better suited to certain specialties than others, while other tools are more generalist. Ironically the Leica rangefinder was a very versatile all-around general camera at the time of its introduction, compared to other alternatives at the time. But today SLR's have filled that role, and the rangefinder is more of a specialist. For many shooting street and reportage photography, the rangefinder "shortcomings" relative to a DSLR are non-issues, and rangefinders have some compelling advantages of their own. You're probably going to have limited success shooting macro or sports with one, though.
Another aspect is that choice of camera doesn't have to be a completely logical, rational decision. There's something to be said for getting what you want/like and enjoying it. And in that sense, a new camera can make you a better photographer if it motivates you to get out and shoot more, or try new things.
--------------------------- Jeff Kohn | The Majestic Landscape | Blog | More Images "The capacity to compose images is really the capacity to give coherence to sensed experience" - Robert Motherwell
| | | |
(#7)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 944 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huntsville, Texas Real First Name: Allan Camera: Nikon, Contax, Vivitar, Cambo, Yashica Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 3 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-12-2009, 08:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffkohn And in that sense, a new camera can make you a better photographer if it motivates you to get out and shoot more, or try new things. | That is exactly what I was about to say. I have a Contax RF and my love for that camera is worth more than several classes on photography as it makes me want to get out an play.
Allan | | | |
(#8)
| | Premium Member
Posts: 8,119 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston (Tomball), Texas Real First Name: Jesus Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 10 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 1 |
09-13-2009, 04:11 PM
The key thing with RF vs DSLR is the size. You can take it to more places and are a lot more inconspicuous which may give you more opportunities.
No expeience at all with RF, though I do have a friend that uses them exclusively for all his work (wedding, portraits, etc., etc.) | | | |
(#9)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,712 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Slaton, Texas Real First Name: Kent Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 33 LIKES Given: 11 |
02-14-2012, 04:03 AM
Took me a while to find it -- but with little more than the fact that it was discussing the luxury value of a leica, I did a search for leica and finally found this thread again.
Currently taking a college course that recently brought up the idea of advertisers and the way they sell their stuff. Could not think of the term "veblen value" to save my life.
Figured I would give this thread a bump for two reasons -- one the term veblen value and link posted is a good read
and two, it is a tailor made Stovall thread and I kinda miss him around here
---------------------------
Nevermind -- I'll take care of it myself!
| | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | Google Sponsors | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
| |
Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. |