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So Sad - 12-04-2009, 02:05 PM


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HIGHLAND PARK, Mich. (AP) — A 15-year-old Michigan boy admitted raping a 3-year-old girl, so enraging his father that the man couldn't control himself when witnesses say he forced the teen to strip, marched him to an empty lot and shot him through the head, a defense lawyer said Tuesday.

The lawyer for Jamar Pinkney Sr., 37, said he will pursue an insanity defense as a judge in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park ruled Pinkney should stand trial on first-degree murder, assault and firearms charges in his son's Nov. 16 death.

Defense attorney Corbett O'Meara said Pinkney's son's confession would have driven anyone crazy.

"There is no rational response to the rape of a child," O'Meara said after the hearing. "He was immediately remorseful and didn't seek to hide. He turned himself in to the police."

Authorities haven't said if they believe the teen raped the girl and police have said the matter is not part of their investigation. Wayne County prosecutor's office spokeswoman Maria Miller declined to comment Tuesday on the nature of the sexual contact.

Pinkney's confrontation with his son came a day after the 3-year-old underwent an examination at Children's Hospital of Michigan. Results of the exam haven't been released, but the teen's mother said they indicated her son "had molested" the girl. The Associated Press is not naming the girl or detailing her relationship to the teen to avoid identifying a victim of sexual assault.

Lazette Cherry testified Tuesday that her son talked to her about his contact with the girl after her exam. Cherry said her son called his father about 3 a.m.

"Daddy, can you please forgive me in your heart, forgive what I did?" she quoted Jamar Pinkney Jr. as asking his father.

The mother said the elder Pinkney agreed to come to the house later to talk further. Cherry's sister, Yolanda Cherry, testified that Jamar Pinkney Sr. arrived about 10 a.m.

Yolanda Cherry said she and her sister talked about getting help for the teen, while Pinkney Sr. said he spoke with the 3-year-old's mother and she wanted to press charges.

"Jamar, is there something you want to tell me?" Yolanda Cherry quoted Pinkney Sr. as asking his son.

"He got on his knees in front of his dad and said, `I'm sorry,'" the aunt said.

"What did you do?" she quoted the father as asking.

"I humped (the girl)," the teen replied. "I need counseling."

Pinkney Sr. didn't immediately respond, Yolanda Cherry said, and she left to visit her mother's upstairs apartment. She later heard screaming and banging and rushed down to find Pinkney Sr. holding a handgun and beating his son.

Both sisters testified Pinkney Sr. ordered his son to undress and marched him outside. The teen's mother said Pinkney Sr. ordered the boy to kneel in the grass, ignoring his pleas for mercy.

"I said, `Jamar, stop. Don't do this. Think about what you're doing,'" Lazette Cherry testified.

She said Pinkney Sr. stood behind the boy and shot him in the head, then walked around still grasping the gun.

"He didn't want anybody to go back and help him," the mother said. After Pinkney Sr. left, she rushed to her son's side.

"He's bleeding, blood coming out of his mouth," she said. "Somebody said, `Get some covers, cover him up, keep him warm.' So that's what we did."

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12-04-2009, 03:57 PM


Wow.

I will admit - and I'm probably going to be in a very super minority for saying this out loud I'm sure - but a part of me almost agrees with the response.

The sons behavior was so offensive to his father....that his 15 year old could do such a thing to a baby......

I have a 2 and a half year old...and the idea is so disgusting...so foreign from my ability of rational thought....actually - the mental response is "he deserved it"...

All too often I read about a family defending the actions, or explaining them away...as if the fact that (in this case) a 15 year old raped a 3 year old...could be explained...or defended...

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Wow.

I will admit - and I'm probably going to be in a very super minority for saying this out loud I'm sure - but a part of me almost agrees with the response.

The sons behavior was so offensive to his father....that his 15 year old could do such a thing to a baby......

I have a 2 and a half year old...and the idea is so disgusting...so foreign from my ability of rational thought....actually - the mental response is "he deserved it"...

All too often I read about a family defending the actions, or explaining them away...as if the fact that (in this case) a 15 year old raped a 3 year old...could be explained...or defended...
i cant say i dont understand the fathers view but he is just as much a criminal for stripping the boy down and executing him

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i cant say i dont understand the fathers view but he is just as much a criminal for stripping the boy down and executing him
I didn't mean to imply that he wasn't a criminal.

Not at all.

But there have been many a situation where someone did the 'right' thing, knowing that they would face life altering consequences for their actions.

Sometimes the 'right' thing is not the 'popular' thing... or even the legally correct thing.

I'm a fan of Dirty Harry...*grin*

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I didn't mean to imply that he wasn't a criminal.

Not at all.

But there have been many a situation where someone did the 'right' thing, knowing that they would face life altering consequences for their actions.

Sometimes the 'right' thing is not the 'popular' thing... or even the legally correct thing.

I'm a fan of Dirty Harry...*grin*
and i see your point, and still have love but i feel like the right thing to do is seek help not execution..... i hope the dad gets executed, who was he to take a life? i cant say i agree with what the kid did...as a matter of fact that makes me shutter to even think about it.....it was nasty and so unfortunate, it hearts my heart....but he was just a young dumb kid who didnt seem to understand reality, and judging by his fathers action..... i understand his mental issue

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12-04-2009, 04:47 PM


Apparently the child that was raped, was the half sister of the 15 year old. Which would explain the father's extreme response even more.

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12-04-2009, 05:01 PM


yeah..... i mean i cant condone what that kid did at all, but that father, i cant condone his behavior either.....i mean think about it, what would you do? kill your kid execution style?

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12-04-2009, 05:03 PM


ugh :(

In no way do I mean to belittle what the boy did to the girl, but that response was just waaayy over the top. There is a difference between rape and murder - the girl will get better.

We're talking about a 15 year old, who may or may not have mental issues of his own - the father deserves no better treatment than he gave his own son.

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ugh :(

In no way do I mean to belittle what the boy did to the girl, but that response was just waaayy over the top. There is a difference between rape and murder - the girl will get better.

We're talking about a 15 year old, who may or may not have mental issues of his own - the father deserves no better treatment than he gave his own son.
agreed but another person just brought it to my attention that if this WAS NOT HIS SON, would you have beat him and killed him, if he did this to your daughter, like the saying goes....."I brought you into this world, i can take you out!"

not that i agree, but if this was my son i would have mixed feelings about how this should be handled, my own love for my son would stop me from wanting the absolute worst punishment for this dirt bag.....

when the tables are turned and some random kid rapes my 3 year old, i would be enraged enough to probably murder......

think about it from both angles,

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I agree that what he did was wrong the father acted way to irrational though. Every member of that family will be forever screwed up because of it.

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I agree that what he did was wrong the father acted way to irrational though. Every member of that family will be forever screwed up because of it.
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12-04-2009, 06:35 PM


I'm not excusing what the father did, but the world is a little safer as there is one less child rapist in the world.
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I don't know what I would feel if my boys did this. However, I can't imagine every killing them. This story is terrible from every angle.
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I don't know what I would feel if my boys did this. However, I can't imagine every killing them. This story is terrible from every angle.
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