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Some Idiot · 02-15-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad

Oh for the love of god! Am I the ONLY one that can go into a movie and watch it without pulling out a checklist and comparing it to every other movie I've seen.

I'll be sitting here in front of the TV watching a movie with my wife, and she'll be like... "you know what other movie that guy was in right"... to which I normally have to pause the movie and think about it, because I'M NOT WORRYING ABOUT ALL THE OTHER MOVIES THE ACTORS / DIRECTORS / PRODUCERS WERE INVOLVED WITH WHEN I'M WATCHING THE MOVIE!!!

It's called suspension of reality people. When you step into the theater, you hit "pause" on reality and enjoy the movie for whatever it is.

And now I'm never opening this thread again.

Good day sirs!

LOL WOW

Buddha · 02-15-2010, 08:49 PM

No you're not, and I don't blame you for feeling as you do.

venchka · 03-08-2010, 01:51 PM

Toad,

I suspend belief all the time. Actually, this is the first and only movie that I have discussed at such great length ever. And that's a long time for me.

UPDATE: Folks who want to keep working voted for a real movie with real locations and real people made by a real director. The Hurt Locker is playing in downtown Houston. I will see it!

Crashoran · 03-08-2010, 02:47 PM

Anybody see Stiller dressed as an avatar yet?

YouTube - Ben Stiller as an AVATAR Live 2010 Oscar Awards- Best Makeup

venchka · 03-09-2010, 07:32 AM

I was going to let it go, but since you brought it up..........

What an uncool, unfunny moron.

Jeff_Green · 03-09-2010, 07:52 AM

No... That was pretty funny

photonewb · 03-09-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by venchka

Toad,

I suspend belief all the time. Actually, this is the first and only movie that I have discussed at such great length ever. And that's a long time for me.

UPDATE: Folks who want to keep working voted for a real movie with real locations and real people made by a real director. The Hurt Locker is playing in downtown Houston. I will see it!

and a complete fabrication with no real merit based on events...there was a couple of articles where the people this was based on took great offense to the way it was portrayed in this movie.

Crashoran · 03-09-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by venchka

Toad,

I suspend belief all the time. Actually, this is the first and only movie that I have discussed at such great length ever. And that's a long time for me.

UPDATE: Folks who want to keep working voted for a real movie with real locations and real people made by a real director. The Hurt Locker is playing in downtown Houston. I will see it!

James Cameron isn't a real director? People didn't make the movie? Sets weren't used? Well I'm glad we've established all these stunning visuals just happened to put themselves together on their own.

venchka · 03-10-2010, 12:28 PM

Too much CGI.

jeffkohn · 03-10-2010, 02:31 PM

Wayne, I don't think your going to change any Avatards' minds, it's an exercise in futility.

crackhead · 03-10-2010, 02:43 PM

welp, that's just like, your opinion, man.

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Originally Posted by Murph

From Another site the review:

Not Right-Wing Friendly

The political import of Avatar -- and there's no waving this aspect away because it's right in your face start to finish, and especially in the third act -- is ardently left. It is pro-indigenous native, anti-corporate, anti-imperialist, anti-U.S. Iraq War effort, anti-U.S.-in-Afghanistan (and anti-troop-surge-in-that-country, or strongly against the thinking of President Barack Obama and Gen. Stanley McChrystal), anti-rightie, anti-Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, etc.

Yes, it's very teenaged adolescent in its super-imaginative wacko visions and exuberant energy levels, but politically it's pure Che Guevara (more the Motorcycle Diaries or Che-in-Cuba version than Che in Bolivia), Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez, Howard Zinn, Gore Vidal, Oliver Stone, etc. Cameron is an earth-hugging lefty from way back (the flagrant despise-the-arrogant-rich current in Titanic being but one example) so this should come as no surprise to anyone. I for one am cheered and heartened.

If Sarah Palin sees Avatar and then sits down and actually thinks about what it's saying (which is always a dicey proposition, I admit), she'll hate this movie. Because Avatar hates her and her kind. Some righties will pretend to like it ("great popcorn flick! took my kids!"), but they'd have to be in major denial mode not to recognize that Avatar is much more MSNBC than Fox News. It really spits on the Fox News philosophy/worldview. If Cameron had for some inane reason put a Fox News-type character in the film, he/she would end up with a Na'vi arrow through his/her chest, trust me.

Call it the most flamboyant, costliest, grandest left-liberal super-movie anyone's ever seen -- a political tract that cost Rupert Murdoch God knows how many hundreds of millions to make and yet is totally pro-loincloth, pro-native, despise-the-greedy, hug-the-earth, worship-the-earth, down with the soulless short-end, down with the us-first, masters-of-the-universe thinking behind the Goldman Sachs/Timothy Geithner culture and up with the eternal/spiritual in all cultures and all corners of the globe. The tragedy of the Vietnam War echoes all through this film. Somewhere Ho Chi Minh is smiling.

Cameron explains the anti-imperialist current to John Anderson in a forthcoming N.Y. Times Sunday piece: "I'm...a child of the '60s. There's a part of me who wants to put a daisy in the end of the gun barrel. I believe in peace through superior firepower, but on the other hand I abhor the abuse of power and creeping imperialism disguised as patriotism. Some of these things you can't raise without being called unpatriotic, but I think it's very patriotic to question a system that needs to be corralled, or it becomes Rome."

Spoiler: I leave it to the community to decide whether there's a huge 9/11 metaphor in Avatar or not, but I felt one (although politically it makes no sense in the context of the film.) Call it a reverse 9/11 image. I'm not talking about the destruction of a man-made super-structure but a natural one. I'll leave it at that and wait for reactions.

Not Right-Wing Friendly :: Hollywood Elsewhere

venchka · **Jeff is The Man! -** 03-11-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffkohn

Wayne, I don't think your going to change any Avatards' minds, it's an exercise in futility.

Avatards

I love it!

Crashoran · 03-11-2010, 01:18 PM

The film has already grossed over 2 billion dollars worldwide. You are obviously in the minority. Call me and almost everybody else a tard for enjoying a work of art, I really don't care what you think.

jeffkohn · 03-11-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashoran

The film has already grossed over 2 billion dollars worldwide.

Yes, and that's the ultimate measuring stick of quality, isn't it? I suppose you think McDonald's makes the best hamburger in the world. and "Thriller" was the greatest album ever...

Besides, a lot of that has to to with inflated tickets for 3D. Adjust past movie sales for inflation, and Avatar is no longer at the top of the list.

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Call me and almost everybody else a tard for enjoying a work of art, I really don't care what you think.

I didn't make up the name Avatard, apparently that's what some of the Cameron fanboys proudly call themselves.