The Official "LOST" Thread

[Sonny]

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This thread will most likely contain spoilers. If you haven't seen the season finale of LOST, then please stop right here, click the back button on your browser, and continue reading other threads on the forum.



With that being said...let's discuss!
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I'll check back in tomorrow morning. Can't wait to read what you all think about the season finale!

[brad]

I'm going to use my 12,000th post to say...

... I am strangely satisfied with the ending. I was pretty sure they were going to foul it up and tick me off, but they didn't. I'm not sure I like everything about it... but I feel happy and sad at the same time. I liken it to the finale of Babylon 5.. which was just a perfect cap to all of it.

[HeatherLou]

I liked it, and cried several times. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't *explain* the island, but overall it was a fitting end to the show. I liked that everyone ended up with who they were supposed to.

[movingex]

This has been the only must see show for me for the past couple of years. I used to keep up with 24 but it got too ridiculous this year. Once I stopped trying to make sense of Lost it was a really fun show to watch. The ending was so, so.

[janikphoto]

Not reading this thread yet, as the final episode is waiting on DVR...

[rab3rd]

I laughed and I cried, several times actually. I know I am a big puss puss. I thought the ending was great. They did the whole series justice ending it that way. I had been holding on to the idea that they were dead the whole time but thought they were in some sort of purgatory. Heather, Jacks father kind of explained the island as a place they had all created to be together to help each other make it across. At least thats what I got out of it. Jimmy Kimmel was suppose to show the three alternate endings on his show last night but I didnt see it. Did anyone?

[HeatherLou]

Originally Posted by rab3rd

I laughed and I cried, several times actually. I know I am a big puss puss. I thought the ending was great. They did the whole series justice ending it that way. I had been holding on to the idea that they were dead the whole time but thought they were in some sort of purgatory. Heather, Jacks father kind of explained the island as a place they had all created to be together to help each other make it across. At least thats what I got out of it. Jimmy Kimmel was suppose to show the three alternate endings on his show last night but I didnt see it. Did anyone?

See I thought Christian was talking about the alternate reality as being the place they all created?

The alternate endings were spoofs, funny, but spoofs!

[rab3rd]

Originally Posted by Heatherlou

See I thought Christian was talking about the alternate reality as being the place they all created?

The alternate endings were spoofs, funny, but spoofs!

You know what, you might be right about that. I was making a leap to the island being that place. It still seemed like purgatory to me. I like how they didnt let Jack die alone. I lost it on that one...

[HeatherLou]

You see the plane that Lupdis was flying go over head when Jack died, Things that are said in the LA reality, like when Hurley tells Ben he was a good #2, or several times people say, "we are going". So I take it that everything that happened on the island is real. Even the time travel, that they don't explain.

[rab3rd]

Christian did tell Jack that everything that had happened to him was real, hmmmmm. Well I still liked the ending despite it all.

[photonewb]

with the church being the meeting place for them to pass from Purgatory into another place together, they still leave things out. Ben doesn't go inside. How do they choose who got to go with them? It can't be all the people from the flight as Desmond, Penny, Juliette etc were in the church. You question what happened to Miles, Richard, and Lupides (the pilot), and if you think "well they got off the island", Sawyer, Claire, and Ben all got on the plane but Sawyer and Claire were in the Church (Ben was outside).

sadly I think the show jumped the shark too many times and wasn't always consistant. And while this isn't about the show, but the editing...my god could they have put more commercials in there? We actually checked the time marks at some point and they were showing 5 minutes of commercials, 5 minutes of LOST, and then 5 minutes of commercials...ugh

[rab3rd]

Well Christian did say that "some died before you and some will die after". The whole thing wasnt tied up with a pretty bow and handed to us like a present, but overall it was a great piece of story telling I think. Always leave em wondering and wanting more. Personally I am going to miss the show but they left us with enough unanswered questions that we can all imagine our own real ending. Techincally the editing of the final episode was something to behold for sure, and a real emtional roller coaster ride. It may have "jumped the shark" but I cant remember a show that stired so much emotion and engagement by the viewer ever. MASH is the only series I can think of that ever made the kind of impact that this show did. Well MASH pre Alan Alda taking over...

[Jake]

Originally Posted by photonewb

.....You question what happened to Miles, Richard, and Lupides (the pilot), and if you think "well they got off the island", Sawyer, Claire, and Ben all got on the plane but Sawyer and Claire were in the Church (Ben was outside).

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Didn't Christian say to Jack something like some died before you and some way later(or something like that)? Meaning Sawyer, Claire, etc could of lived 100 years after they left the island but in the (/ALT) world every one looks the same as the losties remember them.

I didn't like the final last night, but after sleeping on it I'm starting to like it more.
Ben wasn't ready to "let go" quite yet I guess. Hurley and Ben could of ran the island for many years for all we know.

[movingex]

I thought Jack was going to turn into the Black Smoke thing after being exposed to the light, just like Jacob's brother did when he threw him in there, and that he and Hurley would be left there at odds with each other starting the cycle all over again. In the end there were too many unanswered questions. I enjoyed the ending all the way up to the church meeting. Why was Jack's father such a prominent figure in the ending? I didn't get why some people were in the church and other's weren't.

[Sonny]

I've read some interesting explanations so far.

Many are no doubt debating, not what happened during the show, but what was shown during the final minutes of the show. While I am not a writer or creator of Lost, I feel I have solved this one final mystery. After watching the finale, I pondered in my head what it all meant in the ending, and here is what I came up with.

Going back to the finale of season 5, we saw Juliet blow up the bomb. The idea was that blowing up that bomb would change there lives. The island would be gone and the plane never would have crashed. Well, it worked, but just not how we thought.

At the time the bomb was blown up all our characters were pushed back to what can be called "current island time". Everyone assumes that this time coincides with the time in the flash sideways, flashbacks and flashforwards. But it doesn't. The island is on its own time.

So all the events we saw on the island this season did take place. The quest of smokey to get off the island, the protecting of the "source" of the island and so on. All of it happened and everyone was very much alive on the island. The opening of season 6 showed the island completely underwater. And this is where our crew, namely Jack, changed the course of events again. Jack ultimately save the island from dropping into the sea by putting that stone back in its position. And then finally, Jack died for is efforts leaving Hurley as the protector.

In Jack's final moments we see a plane fly overhead as he was laying on the ground among the bamboo. That plane was Oceanic Flight 815. The very same one we saw fly at the beginning of season 6. Except now the island wasn't underwater because Jack prevented that from happening.

Which brings us to the plane and the flash sideways. All those on the plane were alive. They never crashed, but through an unexplained reason they had a connection to those "themselves" from the island. The "awakenings" were opening the memories to what they had done on the island. So just as Faraday had explained to Jack in season 5: they blow up the bomb and their plane never crashes and they land safely in LAX. Their memory of the events on the island draws them together, with Charlie being the catalyst this season to bring them all together. And Desmond the one who helps everyone awake to these memories. And with this change of events Christian Shepherd never did die, but had his own "awakening". Faking his own death caused Jack to go to Australia so that everything could take place as it should.

This explanation makes "The End" worth it. Though we saw some of our favorite characters die over the course of 6 seasons, you could be satisfied that in the end they died to protect the island and a corrupt evil from escaping it. But at the same time the choices and events that took place by our favorite characters really saved them. They remember dying, though they never did. They remember a life on the island, but they were never there. And it is this ending that satisfies everything that happened. Because whatever happened, did happen.

This is the conclusion I drew from the finale. There were many others I contemplated before I came to this one. This was my conclusion because the others did not make sense. The above ending I listed was the only one that had no holes in it. Every other one would work for one reality but not the other. And so I feel 100% confident is this ending. And I am satisfied with the conclusion of Lost.

I think the mundane world was their purgatory and the death of each character after Jacks death is what all of the characters were waiting for. Hugo, Desmond, and Ben were left on the island after Jacks death. Survivors flew over Jacks body suggest that the character went on to lead a life after events on the island. The first episode of the last season begins the tale of the survivors deaths as they happened. Thus "Jack's son" means people lived for at least 15-16 years after the island.

Christian explain that they are in a place where all the people that meant something to each other in life get together before they "move on". That in time explains why Penny and Juliette were there even though they had not been on the plane. Penny had been important to Desmond, which in time was important to everyone else there. And Juliette was important to everyone, but most of all to Sawyer. Michael wasn't at the church because he was condemned to roam the island as a whisper (he said it himself a few episodes ago). Meaning that everybody there had eventually died, either on the island (Jack, Charlie, Boone, Sayid, Sun, Jin, etc) or off the island (Lapidus, Kate, Sawyer, Claire, Miles). None of them have any idea of this until they are ready to "let go". Since time is perceived in a different way in that place. It is evident that "letting go" is the ultimate realization of where they are and acceptance of "the moving on". You can see this with Jin and Sun leaving the hospital and telling Sawyer that they don't need the police protection. They are not afraid anymore because they know where they are, and that they can't be hurt anymore.

I heard people asking why the passengers of Oceanic 815 had been chosen and put on the plane. I guess it was not clear enough that they were not on the plane because they were chosen as candidates; but that they were chosen as candidates because they were on the plane.

Jacob could move in and out of the island at will. If the island can move through time, it's fair to conclude that Jacob also could move through time. And so he moved through time and visited "the candidates" as a way of protecting them and making sure that no matter what choices they made they would end up in the right place at the right time (Oceanic flight 815). If you look closely in the flashback, when Jacobs visits the candidates' pasts he touches them. It's not a regular touch but seems like the touch symbolizes a protection. In a way Jacob is protecting them and guiding them, suggesting the paths to chose.

Jack died on island and we saw this as he smirked while witnessing Lupidas flying Kate, Sawyer, Miles, and Richard back to civilization. As Christian explained to Jack, some died before you, some died long after you. Notice how Kate said, I've missed you so much Jack. She must have lived her life out after being flown home....same with sawyer, etc. Ben had unfinished business. But with his and Hurley's touching comments to each other, they couldve ruled the island for hundreds or even thousands of years before this now famous gathering of Jack's loved ones.

People please!!!! This was THE most amazing, thought provoking, incredible tale ever told on TV! Don't you get it? Remember the K.I.S.S.!!!! Keep it simple, stupid! This was the classic tale of the 'mythical' place called pergatory, or whatever name you want to call it. Every single passanger from Oceanic Flight 815 was dead, probably before the plane even hit the ground, only they didn't know it, and I sure as hell didn't know it either, until the very end. WOW, WOW, WOW! All the other stuff--everything--really doesn't matter. It was all about their journey to get to the other side, and that simple fact simply blew me away.

Do I have questions? You bet I do, but no matter how many questions get answered, it doesn't change the outcome. It was all about the tri-level journey each person could, might or had to take to figure out how to finish their personal stories. Pergatory is not necessarily good or bad, but more-less a place of limbo, and each character had to do what they needed to do to make things right with...their maker?, the universe?...themselves?...their loved ones?...whatever you want it to be, to be able to find the peace needed to pass on to what I only know as heaven--or at least the place we go when we die. Nothing else really mattered about the entire series when you get down to nuts and bolts. Don't ruin it for yourselves by trying to make it more than it is! It was an amazing journey and an amazing ending that was both incredibly sad and incredibly happy all at the same time! What other story have you ever heard that has been able to produce that??? AN all time classic in my book! Bravo to LOST! Brilliant!