This is Murder..............

[Some Idiot]

Un-Freaking Real.... So Sad

9 Seconds to death

According to the coroners report (released weeks ago) all 5 shots entered through the poor guy's side, none to the front, which would suggest he wasn't lunging at the cop, and the knife was recovered, folded

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[mjdmike]

Yes, definitely sad.

Difficult to judge, however, since we can't actually see what happened.

[Flea77]

Never called for backup until after he shot the guy even though he drew his weapon in front of the car, seven seconds between "Hey!" and the first shot, this is murder. I hope they put this guy UNDER the prison for life. These are the smucks that give police officers a bad name.

Allan

[Nikonfan]

I usually back up the officer no matter what because they are under so much stress in most situations with an armed individual. However, I have a really hard time thinking of what could have happened to justify this. We can't see it but the officer never says the guy lunged for him. It certainly doesn't look good for the officer. It's just too bad that all officers don't have tasers. This would have turned out way differently if they did.

[Some Idiot]

Originally Posted by Nikonfan

I usually back up the officer no matter what because they are under so much stress in most situations with an armed individual.

Me too, my Grandpa was on the force for 26 years, but this, this is murder, no other way to slice it.

[markfh]

So, since you've already convicted him why don't we just execute him. After all we know everything there is to know about this case.

[SCone]

21' is where you must make the decision... any closer and you're dead... since I cannot see the incident, there is no way to draw any conclusion... other then the police officer saw a man with a knife and confronted him....

[Some Idiot]

Originally Posted by markfh

So, since you've already convicted him why don't we just execute him. After all we know everything there is to know about this case.

Have you read all the evidence that has come out already..... He has changed his "official account" of what happened twice already, Did you see the picture of the knife that so called "threatened his life" ... His own department has said the shooting was uncalled for...... They took his badge, they admitted he didn't follow protocol .......

[markfh]

Yeah I've read it all. Like I said, since you've obviously negated the basic principal of our justice system, that being one is innocent until PROVEN guilty, we should just dispense with the formality of the trial and just move on to the execution. Right?

If you don't think his knife is that dangerous what do you think about box cutters that have shorter blades? Sound familiar?

His department booted him and called him a bad boy. Wow. What did you expect? There's no political advantage to supporting him and plenty by dumping on him.

I don't have a problem bringing this guy to room temperature but only if there's proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he murdered the guy and wasn't defending himself.

[Some Idiot]

Originally Posted by markfh

Yeah I've read it all. Like I said, since you've obviously negated the basic principal of our justice system, that being one is innocent until PROVEN guilty, we should just dispense with the formality of the trial and just move on to the execution. Right?

If you don't think his knife is that dangerous what do you think about box cutters that have shorter blades? Sound familiar?

His department booted him and called him a bad boy. Wow. What did you expect? There's no political advantage to supporting him and plenty by dumping on him.

I don't have a problem bringing this guy to room temperature but only if there's proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he murdered the guy and wasn't defending himself.

The PROOF is in the Video, you can't argue with reality

If a cop told you to drop your camera as you were walking out in the streets of "anytown" USA ... Do you think it might take you longer then 7 seconds to figure out what the hell is going on?

When you see a person get ran over by a car, do you wait until the court date before you say" that guy got ran over by a car" - Doubtful...... you can draw your own conclusion fairly easy "7 SECONDS till death" !!!!!!!!...... It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see his was WAY WAY WAY over the line of duty.

Are you really comparing a homeless whittler to a terrorist ?

I dont want to argue with you, but you are about 1 in 1000 from all the comments I have read that takes this approach.

Do I want the cop to have his day in court, HELL YES, that is what American is all about buddy.... Is this guy a murderer, in my eyes, HELL YES Pal.

[SCone]

For murder, it must be premeditated... scared doesn't count... neither does stupid

[Some Idiot]

Originally Posted by SCone

For murder, it must be premeditated..

true..manslaughter then, I'm just saying, this sh1t is messed up

[janikphoto]

Originally Posted by markfh

Yeah I've read it all. Like I said, since you've obviously negated the basic principal of our justice system, that being one is innocent until PROVEN guilty, we should just dispense with the formality of the trial and just move on to the execution. Right?

That only stands true in the courts, not for casual public discussions. We are allowed to make a personal judgement from the facts displayed, until additional facts are offered up that might change our minds. Now, if we went from discussing to actual lynching, that's a whole different story.

Personally, I think it sounds like the now ex-officer and possible future felon made a big mistake. He will most likely be charged and possibly convicted of manslaughter, not murder. The current facts available don't really point in any other direction. Especially since his own dept has fired him over this...

[Steve Balderrama]

Originally Posted by markfh

Yeah I've read it all. Like I said, since you've obviously negated the basic principal of our justice system, that being one is innocent until PROVEN guilty, we should just dispense with the formality of the trial and just move on to the execution. Right?

Well, maybe the officer should have done that before killing someone who was probably just walking around carving a piece of wood. Unfortunately, there can never be a trial for the man was killed.

[Crashoran]

Looks like the guy was minding his own business carving a piece of wood if you ask me.
I want to know what the witness in the video saw.