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01-25-2011, 06:22 AM


In order to "learn" something, someone must be willing to do so.

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01-25-2011, 06:39 AM


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First, we don't know that to be true. She was one of the kid's mom. She could said to the coach "Hey, can I do a team picture?" with the coach replying "sure, I don't care". Even if she contracted through the league and the contract involved exclusivity, then the league needs to inform coaches and parents. As Melissa says, educate, because MWC will be there and coaches will say "I don't care".
As stated above, not enough info to make this call. She may have approached him and his thinking may have been ...fine if you want to shoot and try to sell go ahead, but parents will be there too and they'll have phones, P&S and possibly DSLRs, but hey knock yourself out... . We don't even know if the "pro" even had a contract. I would guess not. Maybe in previous years the coach just lined the kids up and let the parents just go at it. That's what we did sometimes when my son played rec. Perhaps that's where this parent got the idea that next year they could shoot it as a "pro". How many times does this happen, right? I'm not advocating bad photo etiquette, but if that was the case this issue of getting shots after she's done doesn't seem like that big of deal, so perhaps, just perhaps the "pro" overacted and perhaps some of us did too.
Sure, we don't know, she didn't know.

What I have described is the typical arrangement.

We do know that it was Picture Day and that it was arranged for the "pro".

That is all we need to know.

It was the "pro's" time.

The MWC should have stayed out of the way.

She had many other days she could shoot.


So, ask yourself. Why did she pick this time?

Yep, it was going to be easier because someone else set everything up.

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We've gotten into the minutiae and, unfortunately by doing so, driven off a member who could have learned a lot about us and our business.

Was she wrong to try to take the picture? Yes--I will readily agree to that point. Was she trying to learn something by asking whether she was right or wrong in this forum? Most definitely. Did we come down too hard on her? Absolutely.

A large part of the argument was that parents/other photographers/MWC's shouldn't take pictures using the professional's posing talents/backgrounds, etc. I agree. Unfortunately, we've driven away someone who could have been an asset and helped us educate others. Now, instead of learning and understanding the challenges a professional photographer faces, her attitude is that pros are all a bunch of--jerks (in place of a better word..but trying to keep this polite).

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I agree completely. At least she learn the truth about how a lot of photographers are.

No doubt the OP was wrong, but I'm far more concerned about of the photographer in question acted. But looking at the replies here, it's probably par for the course.

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No doubt the OP was wrong, but I'm far more concerned about of the photographer in question acted. But looking at the replies here, it's probably par for the course.
Ever think about the fact that maybe the 'pro' didn't really act as rudely as the OP stated she did? I mean, the OP did 'close her own thread' after she didn't get her way. Perhaps, 'the big mean professional' was exactly that because she didn't allow the OP to get her shot.

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01-25-2011, 08:00 AM


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Ever think about the fact that maybe the 'pro' didn't really act as rudely as the OP stated she did? I mean, the OP did 'close her own thread' after she didn't get her way. Perhaps, 'the big mean professional' was exactly that because she didn't allow the OP to get her shot.
Chris is on track here.

We only heard one side of the story.

But the actions of the OP/MWC speak for themselves.

She didn't like what she heard, so she did the drama queen thing.

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01-25-2011, 08:12 AM


eassyyy on the name calling...

closing the thread now since everyone has had a chance to chime in...

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