(#1)
| | The Sony Alpha Mod
Posts: 8,670 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dickinson, Texas Real First Name: Keith Camera: Sony A900/A100/NEX-7 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 5 LIKES Received: 388 LIKES Given: 564 | Am I a Photographic Cheat? -
09-06-2011, 09:31 AM
Interesting writeup on LL: Am I A Photographic Cheat?
--------------------------- Sony|SonyIR|Sony NEX|Minolta Film|Polaroid
If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
"No one cares how hard you worked...but they will notice if you didn't work hard enough." -Ctein
| | | | | Sponsored Links | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
|
(#2)
| | Premium Member
Posts: 5,701 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Tom Camera: GoPro2 Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 7 LIKES Received: 425 LIKES Given: 296 |
09-06-2011, 09:35 AM
Ansel Adams' had a trilogy of books that are very famous.
The Camera
The Negative
The Print
He didn't write "Press the shutter and your job is ****in done, bitches!" | | | |
(#3)
| | Account Banned
Posts: 744 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Chris Camera: Canon, Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 7 LIKES Received: 33 LIKES Given: 15 |
09-06-2011, 09:45 AM
I think this goes in hand with peoples talking about digital being the problem child.
Taking a picture correct in the camera then just making it better post stands out a lot more than taking a snap shot in camera then trying to polish it in post.
I firmly believe that two different people with the same post knowledge taking the same picture but one just using a snapshot and one getting it correct in camera. I firmly believe that the one who take it correct in camera will always have a better image with or without post. | | | |
(#4)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 5,674 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Real First Name: Ken Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 83 |
09-06-2011, 10:00 AM
a curious note: in the article he shows "RAW" files. Impossible. Some software rendered the RAW into a viewable format, and there are many was to render a RAW, some good, some not-so-good. Some do it well enough to just save-as, but it still isn't the RAW file you are seeing. Just because you don't 'do' anything to your RAW file and then save it, you haven't actually seen your RAW file: you saw what your software rendered. A test is to open the same RAW file in separate editors and see the differences in the way each renders it.
A technical nitpik, granted.
---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
| | | |
(#5)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,674 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Real First Name: Chris Camera: Nikon & FujiFilm Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 5 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 221 |
09-06-2011, 10:36 AM
Digital processing is an expansion of the medium, not a form of amateur charlatanism.
--------------------------- | | | |
(#6)
| | The Sony Alpha Mod
Posts: 8,670 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dickinson, Texas Real First Name: Keith Camera: Sony A900/A100/NEX-7 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 5 LIKES Received: 388 LIKES Given: 564 |
09-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Ansel Adams' had a trilogy of books that are very famous.
The Camera
The Negative
The Print
He didn't write "Press the shutter and your job is ****in done, bitches!" | Very true, although I would have loved to hear him say "bitches".
--------------------------- Sony|SonyIR|Sony NEX|Minolta Film|Polaroid
If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
"No one cares how hard you worked...but they will notice if you didn't work hard enough." -Ctein
| | | |
(#7)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 5,674 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Real First Name: Ken Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 83 |
09-06-2011, 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfy Digital processing is an expansion of the medium, not a form of amateur charlatanism. | bingo!
(altho it has been used by professional and amateur charlatans, just as film was...ergo the reputation...)
---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
| | | |
(#8)
| | The Nice Moderator
Posts: 7,353 Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Houston, Texas Real First Name: Sonny Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 406 LIKES Given: 104 |
09-06-2011, 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfy Digital processing is an expansion of the medium, not a form of amateur charlatanism. | Aaaaaaaaaah! Chris used a big word.
You're gonna confuse some people.  | | | |
(#9)
| | The "M" is silent.
Posts: 793 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Adrian Camera: Canon Rebel T1i, Rebel T2 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 3 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 93 |
09-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by groovyone Very true, although I would have loved to hear him say "bitches". | So would I.
--------------------------- "A camera, like a guitar, is just a box with a hole in it. Until it is placed in the hands of a TRUE artist, it will not make music, only noise." | | | |
(#10)
| | Premium Member
Posts: 5,701 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Tom Camera: GoPro2 Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 7 LIKES Received: 425 LIKES Given: 296 |
09-06-2011, 11:21 AM
This is most definitely a man who said bitches from time to time. 
He doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, it is a Dos Equis.
[Photo is public domain] | | | |
(#11)
| | Member
Posts: 179 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Jonathan Camera: LordNikon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 1 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-06-2011, 12:13 PM
Raw files are "digital negatives" they require post production work. Real photographers know this. Who cares what other people think, they cant reproduce our images!!! :) | | | |
(#12)
| | Forum Master
Posts: 1,421 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas Real First Name: David Camera: Nikon D300, D80, Nikon FE Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 114 LIKES Given: 48 |
09-06-2011, 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom This is most definitely a man who said bitches from time to time. 
He doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, it is a Dos Equis.
[Photo is public domain] | Whatever side of the tracks he is on is the right side! | | | |
(#13)
| | Senior Member
Posts: 483 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Real First Name: Joe Camera: Canon XSi Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 14 LIKES Given: 41 |
09-06-2011, 12:59 PM
This sounds like an old discussion to me. Cameras and lenses don't 'see' or capture light the way the human eye does, so retouching or editing the image is a necessity.
Adams would take a week to make just one print of 'Moonrise over Hernandez'. The notes showing where to do what to the print looked like a modern day image of the circuitry in a semiconductor. | | | |
(#14)
| | He's dead, Jim!
Posts: 1,635 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Far West Houston, Texas Real First Name: Westley Camera: Olympus E-30 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 45 LIKES Given: 51 |
09-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikonfan Whatever side of the tracks he is on is the right side! | His camera has a tattoo that says "Leica."
---------------------------
I welcome comments on any picture I post... Thanks. Tripod - (n., archaic.) 1. Image stabilization
Wes Clavey, WB2SVF | My LUG Gallery Album | | | |
(#15)
| | Member
Posts: 61 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco, California Real First Name: Sue aka - NikonGirl Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 24 LIKES Given: 0 |
09-06-2011, 05:45 PM
Digital Photo has changed perceptions and cheat, lie, steal, is the new norm.
Welcome to the USA {United Scam of America} !
--------------------------- Its not the size of your sensor that matters ... its what you do with it that counts !! But if you must know we girls talk who has the biggest ... and uses it best !! | | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | Google Sponsors | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
| |
Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. |