Wow, 650hp factory mustang - 2013 Shelby GT500!

[groovyone]

2013 Shelby GT500: 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 delivers 650 HP and 200 MPH straight from the factory

I am not liking the 2013 Boss 302 refresh though: 2013 Ford Mustang and Boss 302 get styling, packaging updates

[Furinox]

I like that they made the side skirts body colored instead of plastic. Makes the car look much better.

[kenw]

the taillights are still screwed up....shoulda left them alone.

[Nikonfan]

I love this modern day horsepower race. My entire childhood I would hear about the great muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. This was the late 80s when cars had about 65 horses and did 0-60mph eventually with enough patience. I always secretly wished a new horsepower war would start. I believe the 1993 Z28 started it with the now mere 275HP. It was unheard of then. Especially when you consider the corvette was only making 300HP and the 91 vette only made 250HP. That camaro was truly a poor mans vette and once it came out the mustang and corvette started uping their HP.

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by Nikonfan

I love this modern day horsepower race. My entire childhood I would hear about the great muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. This was the late 80s when cars had about 65 horses and did 0-60mph eventually with enough patience. I always secretly wished a new horsepower war would start. I believe the 1993 Z28 started it with the now mere 275HP. It was unheard of then. Especially when you consider the corvette was only making 300HP and the 91 vette only made 250HP. That camaro was truly a poor mans vette and once it came out the mustang and corvette started uping their HP.

How many people do you trust to drive a 650hp car on the same road as you?

It is not a good thing.

They need to concentrate on fuel mileage.

[groovyone]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

How many people do you trust to drive a 650hp car on the same road as you?

It is not a good thing.

They need to concentrate on fuel mileage.

The V6 model gets 300hp and 30+MPG highway.

Two of my cars are 550+ hp.

[SCone]

PLEASE.... PLEASE..... fix the TAIL-LIGHTS.............

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by groovyone

The V6 model gets 300hp and 30+MPG highway.

Two of my cars are 550+ hp.

The V6 @ 300hp & 30mpg is just about ideal.

I bet that 550+ is fun in the rain.... and the gas pump.

What is your mileage in the V ?

My wifes 06 CTS with 255hp has all the power you need and gets ~19mpg.


MY 400hp/800tq gets ~21mpg.

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by SCone

PLEASE.... PLEASE..... fix the TAIL-LIGHTS.............

I have no clue who thought they should cut those corners on the rear.

Does anybody like them?

[groovyone]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

The V6 @ 300hp & 30mpg is just about ideal.

I bet that 550+ is fun in the rain.... and the gas pump.

What is your mileage in the V ?

My wifes 06 CTS with 255hp has all the power you need and gets ~19mpg.


MY 400hp/800tq gets ~21mpg.

All the power you need is relative. Technically my 40MPG TDI VW has all the power I need, but it isn't much fun.

My V got 18.8 on a run through Houston, My Cobra got 24MPG on a run to Chicago. I do know how to drive inthe rain and both cars are incredibly mild mannered. I even have drag radials on the Cobra and used it for a daily driver for years. Both were much friendlier in the rain than the motorcycle was.

*I should add that while I find them incredibly easy going in the rain, I wouldn't let anyone else try them. Of course I very rarely let anyone try them on dry pavement.

So which diesel truck do you have? My bddy's F-350 was the 7.4L and did surprisingly well on gas despite being a 4-door longbed dually.

[groovyone]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

I have no clue who thought they should cut those corners on the rear.

Does anybody like them?

Totally agree on that one.

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by groovyone

So which diesel truck do you have? My bddy's F-350 was the 7.4L and did surprisingly well on gas despite being a 4-door longbed dually.

My 7.3 was stolen in early May. Had it 9 yrs and 304k.

I am driving a '11 250 Crew Cab with the new 6.7.

Starting over sucks.

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by groovyone

All the power you need is relative. Technically my 40MPG TDI VW has all the power I need, but it isn't much fun.

I saw a story about folks in Canada that like to tune the TDI.

Doesn't take much to get a lot more out of a diesel.

[groovyone]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

My 7.3 was stolen in early May. Had it 9 yrs and 304k.

I am driving a '11 250 Crew Cab with the new 6.7.

Starting over sucks.

Ouch. They are ridiculously high theft targets these days.

I looked into tuning the TDI but most mentioned they wouldn't mess with the US model. I'll have to look again because it as been a while. VW in most of the world offers a 170hp variant of the 2.0L that seems to be based on just the tune. That would be nice to get the extra hp, although the torque is nice. I was hoping we'd get the A4 TDI with the 3.0L, but we haven't yet.

[crazeazn]

time to upgrade to a 6.2