Follow us on Twitter!
Follow us on Facebook!
 

Go Back   Pixtus - Photography Forum, Photographers, Photo Tips > General Information > Open Talk


Racial profiling while out and about with your equipment...

This is a discussion on Racial profiling while out and about with your equipment... within the Open Talk forums, part of the General Information category; Given that I haven't been to too many public places as far as carrying my equipment and taking shots, how ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#1) Old
Forum Regular
 
mobilezen's Avatar
 
Posts: 691
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dallas,
Real First Name: Alex
Camera: Canon 40D
Can Others Edit My Photos: No
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
Send a message via AIM to mobilezen Send a message via MSN to mobilezen Send a message via Yahoo to mobilezen
Racial profiling while out and about with your equipment... - 01-05-2007, 01:57 PM


Given that I haven't been to too many public places as far as carrying my equipment and taking shots, how many of you get harassed just cause of your ethnic background? Sometimes I feel like I get a little leeway cause I'm Asian. i.e. Japanese tourist, tourist in general, etc... I have gotten a couple stares, have had (Addison) police sit there and watch me but nothing to the point of being harassed or having my equipment confiscated. I guess I've been lucky and probably should knock on wood cause my photog adventures are about to go int full swing.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
  (#2) Old
Bit herder
 
Gordon's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,265
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin, Tx,
Real First Name: Gordon
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 2

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
Send a message via Yahoo to Gordon
01-05-2007, 01:59 PM


I think it helps me. My 'not from around here' accent usually helps people accept that I'm a tourist, with a camera, even if I've lived here for 7+ years now. Either that, or they don't understand a word I say and give up in disgust. Not quite sure really.

---------------------------
--
ghost town graveyard
Reply With Quote
  (#3) Old
Forum Regular
 
Torrey's Avatar
 
Posts: 775
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Plano, Texas
Real First Name: Torrey
Camera: Canon XS
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 1
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
01-05-2007, 02:18 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon
I think it helps me. My 'not from around here' accent usually helps people accept that I'm a tourist, with a camera, even if I've lived here for 7+ years now. Either that, or they don't understand a word I say and give up in disgust. Not quite sure really.
So where are you from originally?
Reply With Quote
  (#4) Old
what's next .. frogs?
 
Mike G's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,013
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Todd Mission,
Real First Name: Mike
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 1

Likes Received LIKES Received: 1
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
Send a message via ICQ to Mike G Send a message via AIM to Mike G Send a message via Yahoo to Mike G
01-05-2007, 02:25 PM


Some skirt wearing country where they wear stuff like this

(Scottish also .. don't look at me like that Gordon)

---------------------------
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.” — George S. Patton
"No arsenal, no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women." -- Ronald Reagan

Graham Photography
Reply With Quote
  (#5) Old
Bit herder
 
Gordon's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,265
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin, Tx,
Real First Name: Gordon
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 2

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
Send a message via Yahoo to Gordon
01-05-2007, 03:19 PM


Me, on the town lake trail a few years ago. The boomerang for kilt pin isn't entirely authentic, but it is handy that the knife in the sock is sharp.




---------------------------
--
ghost town graveyard

Last edited by Gordon; 01-05-2007 at 03:21 PM..
Reply With Quote
  (#6) Old
Uber Poster
 
Cope's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,265
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Real First Name: Alan
Camera: Nikon D7000
Can Others Edit My Photos: No
iTrader Rating: 22

Likes Received LIKES Received: 2
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
01-05-2007, 05:59 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon
but it is handy that the knife in the sock is sharp.

Sgian Dubh, laddie, Sgian Dubh! And they're hose, not socks!
Reply With Quote
  (#7) Old
You Can't Be Serious!!
 
JohnT's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,747
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Real First Name: John
Camera: 5DMkII, 7D, LX3
Can Others Edit My Photos: No
iTrader Rating: 24

Likes Received LIKES Received: 94
Likes Given LIKES Given: 348
01-05-2007, 06:13 PM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon
I think it helps me. My 'not from around here' accent usually helps people accept that I'm a tourist, with a camera, even if I've lived here for 7+ years now. Either that, or they don't understand a word I say and give up in disgust. Not quite sure really.
I'm sorry, Gordon. Could you repeat that? My ears have an accent.

---------------------------
Everyone wants to be a rock star, but no one wants to learn the chords.
Reply With Quote
  (#8) Old
Supa Dupa Poster
 
kenw's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,455
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Cypress, Texas
Real First Name: Ken
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 2

Likes Received LIKES Received: 65
Likes Given LIKES Given: 52
01-05-2007, 06:25 PM


being simply "different" is usually enough to get curious looks and possibly more.

I frequent trackside areas, and really can't blend in in the least. Everyone from the neighbors, cruisers, cops, etc gives me the once over.

btw, I'm a WASPM50+.

---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
Reply With Quote
  (#9) Old
Forum Regular
 
Stephen H's Avatar
 
Posts: 798
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garland, TX,
Real First Name: Stephen
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
01-05-2007, 07:18 PM


I'm not really sure how racial profiling would tie in to photography. Minorities in general aren't noted for committing crimes with cameras, so it seems carrying a camera would be to your advantage rather than not. Possible exception if you're arabic-looking and photographing the nuke plant or something. If you're wandering around with a camera, I can't say right offhand if it would be better to be a foreignor or worse.

---------------------------
I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by,
and then it petered out and I had to retrace my steps and wasted half a day.
Reply With Quote
  (#10) Old
Supa Dupa Poster
 
kenw's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,455
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Cypress, Texas
Real First Name: Ken
Camera: Canon
Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes
iTrader Rating: 2

Likes Received LIKES Received: 65
Likes Given LIKES Given: 52
01-05-2007, 09:21 PM


I highly agree, Stephen. Much perceived prejudice is in the eye of the beheld. you FEEL you are different so you see anything and everything as prejudice instead of just normal curiosity or normal attention. I've felt it in lots of places. It's real, but it's more a function of my hyper-self-consiousness and some curiosity (try being blonde in the Japanese countryside) than overt prejudice.

I had a train crew ask if I was a lawyer, since I was taking pics at the scene of an earlier train-car accident (unbeknownst to me) and was wearing my work clothes (office type)......A LAWYER!!! where's the ACLU when I need them???? :O

---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
Reply With Quote
  (#11) Old
Forum Regular
 
Stephen H's Avatar
 
Posts: 798
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garland, TX,
Real First Name: Stephen
iTrader Rating: 0

Likes Received LIKES Received: 0
Likes Given LIKES Given: 0
01-05-2007, 09:36 PM


Some questions like that are really hard to answer. I was stopped while taking pictures of a dam at Lake Lavon a while back. There weren't any signs saying "no photography" and after a fair bit of research and even conversations with the Corps people, I'm pretty sure that there simply wasn't any actual rule against photographing that dam. I've had the refinery security people check on me when taking pictures of a locomotive on refinery grounds. I've had the cops check me out when parked (unknowingly) in the general vicinity of a county jail. Had the cops interrupt a nice smooching session with a girlfriend when I was a teenager even. But in each case, I didn't actually violate any law or do anything wrong. Had I been a minority or foreignor, I would probably be convinced that each incident was because of that and that alone. It would be easy to get paranoid.

On the other hand, I was out shooting trains in downtown Fort Worth a few years back, and while circling through some neighborhoods trying to get back to the freeway, I came upon a police roadblock and driver-license/ insurance check. That doesn't seem so odd until I reflect that in 30 years of driving, I've NEVER seen police doing that in "my" neighborhood.

---------------------------
I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by,
and then it petered out and I had to retrace my steps and wasted half a day.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
equipment, profiling, racial

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Visit Our Sponsors
 

Google Sponsors

Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.

Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.