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This is a discussion on windows vista installed within the Open Talk forums, part of the General Information category; Originally Posted by Detonate I'm not sure I understand what is being said in that mess.... I don't use Adobe ...

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02-28-2007, 01:34 PM


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I'm not sure I understand what is being said in that mess.... I don't use Adobe Gammaloader, but I do use Colorvision Spyder Pro, and the best I can tell it's working fine.

It loads color profiles at start up, one for each monitor, and I can SEE the color shift when it loads. It's very obvious to me, because if I turn it off, one monitor is noticibly more orange than the other one, especially with my predominately grey background. But once the profiles load, the monitors look identical.

It would suggest that it's working correctly to me.
This seems a clearer explaination of what the potential issue is.

Sounds like it should look like it worked at the start, but become uncalibrated later. Should be easy to check I suppose.


WCS has the makings of a very capable color management system. It seems to be able to fit into traditional ICC-based workflows and then quickly flip into WCS mode for some of its newer features and capabilities. The architecture certainly has a future. It's the present I am concerned with primarily.

Due to Vista's non-handling and mishandling of graphics card calibration curves it is next to impossible for a professional user to be confident that their system is properly calibrated and displaying color correctly. For this reason I do not recommend Vista for professional workflows at this time. When Microsoft addresses the calibration-clobbering bug in a future service pack then I think Vista will make an effective platform for high quality color production."

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Having been in the computer design and manufacturing business for 25+ years, I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they need to upgrade so quickly.
I used to be an early adopter too. I think I just grew out of it when I stopped looking at the OS as something fun rather than just a means to do actual work.

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Ok, now I see why it doesn't affect me....

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Every time the OS asks for authorization (like admin rights to install a program) the new interface dims, and the LUT from the calibration of your monitor is lost, and evidently DOESN'T get re-loaded. Talk about a killer bug for graphics apps!
That happens as part of the UAC, and since I have UAC turned off, my system never goes through that dimming/relit process, thus I'm calibrated from startup to shutdown.

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I used to be an early adopter too. I think I just grew out of it when I stopped looking at the OS as something fun rather than just a means to do actual work.
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Ok, now I see why it doesn't affect me....



That happens as part of the UAC, and since I have UAC turned off, my system never goes through that dimming/relit process, thus I'm calibrated from startup to shutdown.
That's great that you aren't affected. standby/ hibernate etc are also apparently implicated. So as long as you never put it in a low power mode you should be fine. I think I'll just wait until SP1 and these various issues are addressed, rather than working through all the special cases and workarounds to get things to be reliable.

Why did you turn off one of the main security advances with the new OS ?

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what a concept!
I know. A crazy notion.

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I used to be an early adopter too. I think I just grew out of it when I stopped looking at the OS as something fun rather than just a means to do actual work.
Yeah, I remember loading an early Win95 beta, which came on about 30 floppies. I'm much more pragmatic about these things now...

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Why did you turn off one of the main security advances with the new OS ?
Because I don't need it.

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Having been in the computer design and manufacturing business for 25+ years, I cannot for the life of me understand why people think they need to upgrade so quickly.
Who said anything about needing to.

I can't figure out why people who don't upgrade are so adament that no one else does.

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Because I don't need it.
Good luck with that.

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I don't call it luck. I've never once had a virus on any PC I've ever owned, and guess what....??? I've never had UAC either...

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