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Question Mathematic Deception - 03-20-2007, 05:12 PM


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Three gentlement go out of town for a business conference. They arrive at their hotel and decide that they're going to share a room. The concierge tells the men that the room is $30. They each give the concierge a $10 bill... totalling $30. The concierge gives them their key to room 321 and asks the bellhop to show them to their room.

A few minutes later, the concierge realizes that he has charged the men too much money. The actual price of the room is $25. He calls the bellhop over and gives him 5 $1 bills and tells him to take and refund the money to the men in room 321.

As the bellhop gets close to the room, he decides that since there are 3 men and no way to split $5 three equal ways, that he will keep $2 and give each of the men $1... thus accounting for the $5 given to him by the concierge.

Since each of the men initially paid $10 and the bellhop return $1 to each of them, then each of the men paid $9. So, $9 times 3 men = $27. The bellhop has $2 in his pocket. $27 + $2 = $29.

Where's the other $1?

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03-20-2007, 05:21 PM


$25 to the hotel + $2 to the bellhop + $1 to each of the three men = $30.

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03-20-2007, 05:31 PM


Let us know where it went. I read this and I still have no idea.

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Since each of the men initially paid $10 and the bellhop return $1 to each of them, then each of the men paid $9. So, $9 times 3 men = $27. The bellhop has $2 in his pocket. $27 + $2 = $29.

Where's the other $1?
The problem is that this logic counts the money paid to the bellhop twice.. the $2 in his pocket is already included in the $27... And doesn't count the money given back to the men.... you can only count the money given to the bellhop once... $25 to the hotel, $2 to the deceitful bastard (I mean bellhop), and $3 given back to the men.

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03-20-2007, 06:15 PM


$27 + $2 does indeed = $27<BR>
but $25 (to the hotel) + $2 to the bellhop + $3 back to the men= $30<BR>
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03-20-2007, 08:38 PM


I know... it's just funny to tell it like I did... it really confuses people when you say it like this:

Well, each guy paid $10 right? Yes. And each of them received $1 back right? Yes. That means each of them only paid in $9 right? Yes. And the bellhop has $2 right? Yes. So... if they each paid $9 and the bellhop has $2... $9*3+$2=$29...

I just love the look on their faces at that point.

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03-20-2007, 08:48 PM


It is very confusing.
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03-20-2007, 09:01 PM


Men paid $30. Manager refunds $5. Bellhop keeps $2, returns $3, meaning the men actually paid $27. There is no $29, never was. It makes as much sense as me saying, "look, 30 + 5 + 2 + 3: It means the men actually paid $40!!"

It's a bit of misdirection. What are we counting? (don't say money, that's not what I mean.) If we are counting the amount the men paid, that's $27. If we're counting the cost of the room, it's $25. If we're counting the change, that's $5 or 2+1+1+1.

This equation:
"$27 + $2 = $29"

Should actually be
"$27 - $2 = $25" which is the cost of the room. The $29 dollar equation is pulling a figure from part of the problem and moving it around, mixing it up with another part of the problem. Sleight of hand - er, pencil - if you will. In the context of the problem description, it is nonsense.
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Ok, do we discuss the mathematical proof that girls are evil next?

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Ok, do we discuss the mathematical proof that girls are evil next?
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My wife reads these forums. I should probably stay out of that one... :)
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NO!

Awwww... its fun. :)

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Ok, do we discuss the mathematical proof that girls are evil next?
You mean this one?

We know that women like two things, your time and your money, therefore...

women = time x money

Now time equals money, so

women = money x money

Money is the root of all evil, so

money = square root of evil

Squaring both sides of the equation we get

money squared = evil

As stated before

women = money x money

Therefore

women = money squared = evil

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You both are just BAD BAD men!

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You both are just BAD BAD men!
But Heather, we looooooooooove you!

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