What do you think about models watching critques?

[picasso]

I bring this up because I think I have caused myself to feel weird now and probably will not post on a critique if I know the model is watching the critque.

I posted a critique on this thread http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=49999 Little did I know the model was also looking at the posts. My comment as you can read was that one of the shots made her look fat. She by no means is fat but I think I might have hurt her feelings or maybe the photographers feelings. I guess I just don't like feeling that way when I post a critique I am trying to be helpful but in this particular post I feel bad and don't think I should have to feel that way.

Am I being stupid and should just suck it up? I know it is inevitable that models will want to see what people are saying about their pictures and did not really mind it until now. I guess this could just be my little issue and I should deal with it but thought I would see what others thought about it. I will just not comment if I know the model is looking.


Paul

[johnastovall]

The critique is about the picture not the model. If negative critiques are going to hurt either the photographer or the model's feelings, they need to consider other career options. Nothing can help you grow your craft better than thoughtful negative critiques. My concern would be how many people here know how to do that.

[picasso]

I for one am probably guilty of not giving the best critiques. If I see something that just does not look right to me I point it out but otherwise if I like the picture and my first response is a thought in my head of "Nice" thats usually what I will say. I can't always find something wrong with a picture even though those with more experience will see things. I guess we are all learning though correct?

Paul

[mike_sax]

Paul, thanks for being honest. When c/c or suggestions are requested we should each be able to accept corrective criticism.

Don't let this stop you from offering up your opinions on what you see in the work provided.

To anyone else, I have assured Paul that in no way was I offended and I am fairly certain that Ellen was not either. I don't think anyone has ever accused her of being too heavy.

[eleigh07]

Paul, don't feel bad! it's alright - I only joined this site because Mike was posting my pictures. I want to know people's thoughts/opinions. I know that all of my pictures and poses don't look as flattering as others either! Don't feel bad or be in fear to tell the truth about a picture. Photographers and models want to know what other people think, Im totally new at this! I have only worked with Mike three times, and I am absolutely loving it so far! I need all the advise I can get. My feelings arn't hurt by any means! I know I am not fat, so it's no big deal!!

[picasso]

Thanks Mike and Ellen,

No worries. I am glad you both were not offended. It certainly was not intended. Probably just me being overly sensitive as usual. Keep up the good work and I will keep giving opinions. ( My wife tells me I have plenty of those.) : )

Ellen, I am sure you will have no shortage of offers for modeling either so get ready.


Paul

[JPalmer]

Posing models to flattering positions is just as hard as composing the photograph and getting the light right.

Simply put....you will be dogged like a....dog (??? what?) for a while and you will have to learn a lot of things. There were only a handful of the photos posted by either Mike or Ellen that I would even consider a true flattering pose for her.

Now, that's obviously not to say that they weren't good photos or anything, they obviously are...but think of it this way.

In the beginning...photogs. think that using a simple flash on camera is a good thing. Compared to even having the light off axix by 2-3 feet...there is no comparison. That's just something you learn.

posing people is the same way.

keep it up and keep up the harsh critiques, that's how you learn, by being given a little perspective.