4x6 and full frame shooting

[adirty1]

how do you all handle the cussed 4x6 and full frame 5d. It was easy when I was shooting a cropped sensor but now that I am shooting mostly full frame the 4x6 proof that every one wants is becoming a head ache. I guess i am going to have to go back to the old proof sizes but that could upset people. I normally do spiral proof mags and it's not an issue but I have been getting a lot of people asking for a proof set of 4x6, 4x5 would be a lot easier I am thinking about including a set 4x5 with this next order just to illustrate the difference.

[Jake]

4x6 is just right from the 5D. I don't get the question?

[Gordon]

I'm confused ? The 5d shoots a 1:1.5 ratio image, which is the same ratio as 4x6 ? There's no cropping required to print 4x6s.

Same ratio as the Canon rebels and 1D's

5D image is 4368:2912 (1:1.5)
400D image is 3888:2592 (1:1.5)
4x6 image is also (1:1.5)

[adirty1]

If i crop to a 8x10 normally that's as big as a candid is going to go. I am going to have to think of how to word this question.

[Gordon]

Originally Posted by adirty1

If i crop to a 8x10 normally that's as big as a candid is going to go. I am going to have to think of how to word this question.

an 8x10 crop is certainly different to a 4x6 crop, if that's what you mean ? But that isn't something specific to full frame or the 5D, or even digital shooting.

i don't see what could have changed from a cropped sensor to the 5D, as they all pretty much have the same 3:2 image ratio.

[srwatters]

Nearly all DSLR sensors follow the 35mm film ratio of 1:1.5 (24x36mm) as Gordon mentioned. I find it more of a pain that models want/need 9x12 and 8x10 shots. If I used medium format that would be easier. For your clients wanting 4x6, your DSLR is perfect.

[adirty1]

that's the problem I cropped these as 8x10. I knew something was wrong instead of using the
2:3 ratio. that explains a lot of of issues that are going on. I knew I never had these kinds of issues before with the full or cropped sensor. this has been the wedding from hell.

I just went back and checked my settings in bridge and the crop was changed to a custom from a job i did a while back.

Now the question of what to do. there was way to much retouching done to reprocess this job.

[adirty1]

Originally Posted by srwatters

Nearly all DSLR sensors follow the 35mm film ratio of 1:1.5 (24x36mm) as Gordon mentioned. I find it more of a pain that models want/need 9x12 and 8x10 shots. If I used medium format that would be easier. For your clients wanting 4x6, your DSLR is perfect.

Normally yes. but when it's been cropped to 8x10 there is a problem. I can see the 8x10 but not the 9x12. I still dont see why models ask for 9x12 when 8x10 is still pretty well the standard at least it was from the last cattle call we did.

[AndrewCCM]

So...you're saying that you realize that the image ratio is the same on most all dSLRs...2:3, but you just cropped them all to 4:5 (8x10) and now need to go back to 2:3 for 4x6 proofs with this one particular client? I would just see if the client would accept 4x5 proofs. If not, then it's gonna be tough. Personally, I do not offer proofs. They are either digital files that they purchase with the package or individual prints. Sometimes they are online "proofs".

I always maintain the native aspect ratio when editing. Regardless of crop. If a client needs something other than 2:3, I do that after the fact.

I hope you get it figured out.

Good luck!

[Jake]

Also, if they were shot in RAW and cropped in bridge during the jpg conversion then can't you just un-crop and reconvert?
I didn't think the bridge actually cropped the RAW file.

[JPalmer]

Just shoot loose and give you room to crop.

It's not like you're going to need 100% of the resolution for even an 8x10

[adirty1]

yes you can but after they have been retouched your just starting over.
yes andrew you nailed it.

I am going to give them 4x5's and the 4x6's that I have already printed.
On the dvd they will get the cropped 4x6 which is probably all they want and will ever use plus the 8x10 which is what they should have only gotten.

this way they have 4x6's and a the full 8x10 that if they want to make 5x7's or what have ya they can do so.

Yes Andrew I normally dont do proof unless they order them normally it's a bound spiral or just the low res files on dvd for faster proofing than the web.

these people a pissed because everything didnt go right at the wedding. well i cant fix that but the images are pretty damn good for the location and in general. You name it and something went wrong at this wedding...The last three weddings have been a total cluster. Not on my part but the wedding alone was a cluster.

I believe two of the 3 are in the works for splitzville. My MUA does the hair for a those two brides and tells me everything that is going on. And the MUA believes this last wedding will end up just like those other two. That would put me at 3 for 4 for divorce in the last 3 months.


If that gets out I wont have to worry about doing weddings ever again.