Houston man shoots two burglars

[Jeff_Green]

Originally Posted by KJ Smith

That would be the same thing, Journalist getting it right ?


My point was, as far as I know there were no witnesses. So only one guy knows what happened.

It will be up to the investigators/forensics people to determine the truth, or likely truth.

Kevin

So until they determine the truth we should blame the law abiding citizen and feel great pity on the felons who were caught in the act. We obviously can't believe anything the law abiding citizen says because he legally shot two felons, and anyone who shoots someone while they are in the act of committing a felony is not to be believed!!

[cjphotog]

I am really trying hard not to come back to this thread...

My biggest problem is that the shooter purposely escalated the situation by confronting the thieves. He knew that the police were on the way. No lives were in danger when he saw them leave his neighbors house. Listening to the tape again...

[Jeff_Green]

He escalated the situation by doing something he legally and ethically had a right to do. Confront 2 felons that might have been armed.

I'm sure the guy talking to the 911 dispatcher was upset, frustrated, angry by what was going on and knew the police wouldn't get there in time and due to his emotions said what he did. But as many here have said, when you are in that situation of facing 2 felons you don't behave as you think you would. I have no doubt that he didn't go out there shooting away.

And this is why I commented earlier about being a prisoner in your own home. When I see a felony occurring, YOU would have me lock myself in my house because doing anything else puts me in the wrong. ANYTHING I do other than cower in the corner is escalating the situation.

[cjphotog]

I would leave the situation to those who are trained to react in very stressful conditions. Obviously the shooter was in a heightened state of mind, with adrenaline pumping, and an itchy trigger finger.

By escalating the situation he put himself in the position to be judge jury and executioner. Maybe that is more a comment on the sad state of affairs on civil services here in Houston.

[mjdmike]

Originally Posted by cjphotog

I would leave the situation to those who are trained to react in very stressful conditions. Obviously the shooter was in a heightened state of mind, with adrenaline pumping, and an itchy trigger finger.

By escalating the situation he put himself in the position to be judge jury and executioner. Maybe that is more a comment on the sad state of affairs on civil services here in Houston.

He put himself into a position to stop a crime. Maybe it wasn't the best thing he could have done, but it was what he felt he needed to do, and was certainly within his legal rights.

He didn't have an itchy trigger finger. He had a strong desire to not let a few thugs get away with a crime. If he'd had an 'itchy trigger finger', he wouldn't have called 911 until he shot them. Remember, he called first and asked for help. He could have easily shot them and claimed self defense.

THEY put themselves in a position to break the law and accept whatever consequences might arise.

What if they had stopped and surrendered until the police arrived? We'd call him a hero for stopping a crime, right?

I seriously doubt the man would have shot them if they had stopped and surrendered to him.

[LoungeLizard]

This thread is becoming a dead horse...actually, a burried dead horse. You're all rehashing the same thing over and over again.

[crazeazn]

thats why its a great thread. duh

[KJ Smith]

Originally Posted by Jeff_Green

So until they determine the truth we should blame the law abiding citizen and feel great pity on the felons who were caught in the act. We obviously can't believe anything the law abiding citizen says because he legally shot two felons, and anyone who shoots someone while they are in the act of committing a felony is not to be believed!!

I have said neither, I think you wait to hear all the facts.

Have you listened to the entire tape ?

I think there is room for a lot of interpretation, right and or wrong.

As to "Law Abiding", I think that is part of what is being debated here.

I do not know how it's going to work out, but I am interested.

Kevin

[Jeff_Green]

Originally Posted by cjphotog

I would leave the situation to those who are trained to react in very stressful conditions. Obviously the shooter was in a heightened state of mind, with adrenaline pumping, and an itchy trigger finger.

By escalating the situation he put himself in the position to be judge jury and executioner. Maybe that is more a comment on the sad state of affairs on civil services here in Houston.

Those "trained to react in stressful conditions" also are in a heightened state of mind, with adrenaline pumping, and an itchy trigger finger. That is what adrenaline does to you. What you are also failing to take into account is what was the law abiding citizens training? I have trained with firearms and am licensed to carry a concealed weapon. I have had more training that just the C.C. class. So I am considered trained to react in stressful conditions yet I get the feeling that if it was me you would still say the same thing. You don't know his training background but assume he is a hazard to the community because he stopped two felons from carrying out their felony.

[cjphotog]

Originally Posted by Jeff_Green

Those "trained to react in stressful conditions" also are in a heightened state of mind, with adrenaline pumping, and an itchy trigger finger. That is what adrenaline does to you. What you are also failing to take into account is what was the law abiding citizens training? I have trained with firearms and am licensed to carry a concealed weapon. I have had more training that just the C.C. class. So I am considered trained to react in stressful conditions yet I get the feeling that if it was me you would still say the same thing. You don't know his training background but assume he is a hazard to the community because he stopped two felons from carrying out their felony.

That is exactly the difference, the police ARE TRAINED in the academy and have experience to boot. The shooter nor YOU (since YOU keep on making this personal) is an ex-cop. No amount of CC Class can prepare you for that stressful situation. From YOUR point of view we might as well put the shooter in a vehicle, armed with his shotgun to patrol his neighborhood...oh wait... thats what the Police are for.

[Abel]

I think this thread has ran it's course several times over...

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