Is Jill Greenberg an idiot!This is a discussion on Is Jill Greenberg an idiot! within the Open Talk forums, part of the General Information category; Just goes to show you that even a VERY SUCCESSFUL and well known photographer can be an idiot and shoot ...
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09-12-2008, 11:33 PM
Just goes to show you that even a VERY SUCCESSFUL and well known photographer can be an idiot and shoot themselves in the foot.
I'm not posting this for political discussion, this has to do with her being hired for a job and then purposely taking a bad photo to try and further a personal agenda. I sure hope this comes back to bite her in the A$$ and she doesn't get anymore magazine work, but I'm sure she'll get even more work from it.
Here's a description of what happened: http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.c...sert-foot.html
and here's the original article on PDN: http://www.pdnpulse.com/2008/09/how-jill-greenb.html
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09-12-2008, 11:40 PM
That is simply astounding. If you can't leave your emotions at the door and do a job better than that, you shouldn't be doing it.
I've never had a lot of respect for her after her "crying babies" series... and this cinches it. Hired to do a job to make him look heroic, agreed to it... then purposely, maliciously, and without remorse.. took advantage of the person and did exactly the opposite. I don't care what her political feelings were, she took a job under false pretenses.. essentially lied to her subject and her employer.
She is lowest of the low. I hope she never gets another job.
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09-12-2008, 11:41 PM
Exercising great restraint at this moment...
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09-12-2008, 11:46 PM
That's a quick way to lose your client's trust... and on a national scale. | | | |
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09-13-2008, 12:03 AM
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09-13-2008, 12:07 AM
Bad press is still press.... Im sure this will only make her name more recognizable..... She is really good, no matter what you think/ say..... whaddah ya gonna do?
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09-13-2008, 12:16 AM
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Some of my artwork has been pretty anti-Bush, so maybe it was somewhat irresponsible for them [The Atlantic] to hire me.”
| Ah, that explains it...It's the Atlantic's fault...Ben
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09-13-2008, 12:21 AM
This is her website? http://www.manipulator.com/
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09-13-2008, 12:26 AM
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Guess we know who she's not voting for.........
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09-13-2008, 12:31 AM
Unreal.
It should be interesting to see how the Atlantic reacts.
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09-13-2008, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenny Z | That's a pure lack of class no matter what your political leanings. Disgusting "photo".
Bite your tongue David or I'll get banned.... so much to say. | | | |
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09-13-2008, 12:49 AM
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09-13-2008, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenny Z | Totally unprofessional, juvenile, immature, etc. Other than that, I'm totally speechless.
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09-13-2008, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenny Z | Is that a self portrait? Kinda trashy...
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09-13-2008, 01:39 AM
What gets me is the people claiming it wasn't unprofessional to deceive a model into a shot that wouldn't have otherwise been agreed to. While it is legally different, I'd consider her actions morally equivalent to putting hidden cameras in the model's changing area.
Then, they're claiming it's also not unprofessional to publicly insult a model and a client. | | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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