OT: Pistol reviews - Taurus 1911 and S&W M&P 45

[Sideline]

I've carried Sig, S&W, Kimber, but once I started shooting a Glock, my groups were much tighter and my qualification scores went up instantly and they stayed there consistently, wether it was with my 9mm or my .40 cal. I think part of that is due to all of my previous weapons had hammers, and I am left-eye dominant right hand shooter.

As hard as I would try to stay focused, every once in a while I would catch myself seeing the hammer action, and getting distracted. No hammer means no distraction for me :)

I was raised to be extremely safe with firearms, and the lack of what I like to think of a physical safety with the Glock made me super cautious (I agree with a previous poster that the best safety mechanism is between the ears) but once I put a few rounds down range with a Glock 23, I was converted :)

[dbphotos]

Originally Posted by Kalrog

dbphotos - why are you nervous (maybe a bad choice of words) about a semi auto without a manual safety but you are just fine with a revolver that doesn't have one? For the 1911 when you are going to carry C&L (condition 1, single action, whatever your term preference) I do see the need for a manual safety. But when you are talking Glock etc, I don't see how the trigger finger being the safety is any different than any other DA gun including revolvers.

Oh, and thanks for the Taurus review. I have a Para Ord LDA 1911 and was thinking about picking up its big brother. I don't think I want to switch to the true SA 1911, but the value of Taurus is certainly there (if you get a good copy - they do seem to have QC issues sometimes).

The Glock is carried 4/5 cocked w/out any external safety all the time and is more likely to fire accidentally than a 1911 with the safety off. The 1911 can't be fired unless you squeeze the grip safety. There is a good test somewhere that illustrates both the Glock and 1911, I'll try to find the link and post it. Here's a link that discusses the 1911 safety: http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/cockedandlocked.htm

[dbphotos]

Originally Posted by nastytrucker

In the words of Mr.Heston, " From my COLD DEAD HANDS!!!"

Does that revolver come in a hammerless version? I have a .38 recessed hammer Taurus that I use for CC. I like the lack of a hammer because it can be shot from a coat pocket without the worry of the hammer snagging on the liner. Ive thought about getting a .357 revolver for a little more punch.

They do have several hammerless versions, but I'm not sure if it's this exact model. You can always have your hammer "bobbed" if you find a revolver you like.

[dbphotos]

Originally Posted by bung

Where did you get the M&P with night sights for $490? I really like the feel of the M&P but I don't like DAO or the fact that it uses 10 round mags (I'd like higher capacity). But for that price I may make an exception.

www.budsgunshop.com. The DA on this was very smooth.

[Truckman]

Originally Posted by dbphotos

You can always have your hammer "bobbed" if you find a revolver you like.

It's just a matter of changing the hammer and the hammer spring...Ben

[Kalrog]

Originally Posted by Hogleg 44

Be REAL TEXANS! Get a Hogleg 44 Y'all!!!
<Colt SAA 44-40, Frontier SixShooter>

Got one - mine is a Ruger. Scoped. My 6 shot deer "rifle".

[scayf]

Another note about the 1911A1: it can't go off unless the trigger is fully pulled to the rear (since the 80 Series, that is). Colt installed a firing pin block that's activated by the trigger, and pushes up a small pin that allows the firing pin to go forward. I carried one locked and cocked for a couple of years, and felt completely safe with it.

[Truckman]

Originally Posted by scayf

Another note about the 1911A1: it can't go off unless the trigger is fully pulled to the rear (since the 80 Series, that is).

Another little known tip to prevent slamfires when loading the chamber: With the slide locked to the rear, insert a loaded magazine...Holding the grip with the right hand, depress trigger fully to the rear...Then with left thumb move the slide release down...This prevents the hammer from following the slide and prevents slamfires...Ben

[ggeen]

Originally Posted by David_3

Love my Glocks. The safety is between the ears.

Amen, brother! Just where is should be. -G