Question for you Electricians out thereThis is a discussion on Question for you Electricians out there within the Open Talk forums, part of the General Information category; I'm building a light box for examining slides and negatives. I've got a nice wooden case that wine came in ...
(#1)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 708 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Michael Camera: Canon, Nikon, Bronica, Yashica Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 4 LIKES Given: 2 | Question for you Electricians out there -
04-20-2009, 12:07 PM
I'm building a light box for examining slides and negatives. I've got a nice wooden case that wine came in that I'll be using for the box. To light it, I bought a couple of those fluorescent light units you can pick up at Home Depot for under the cabinet lighting in your kitchen, etc. They're self-contained, each having a couple of fluorescent bulbs in a housing with an on-off switch and a power cord. For this project, I want a single power cord to exit the box.
My question is: can I run these two fixtures in series, or do I have to wire them parallel? I know that if they were incandescent, series would be no problem, but I don't know if fluorescents, with their ballasts and all, might present a different problem.
A few words of explanation should probably accompany my crude drawing below. The rectangles are the fluorescent fixtures. The two lines exiting to the left of each rectangle represent a two-conductor power cord. What I will do to join the power cords is just clip the wires and use wire nuts to join them together.
Best,
Michael
Last edited by cooltouch; 04-20-2009 at 12:43 PM..
| | | | | Sponsored Links | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
|
(#2)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,325 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mansfield, Texas Real First Name: Jeff Camera: Nikon D300/D70 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 50 LIKES Given: 31 |
04-20-2009, 12:22 PM
My recommendation would be to run in parallel. In fact that should be the only way to wire it as there shouldn't be an output source coming from the ballast to run in series. You would still be running parallel, just connecting inside the fixture.
If I'm missing something, someone let me know!
---------------------------
"If you find a job you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life."
| | | |
(#3)
| | Member
Posts: 58 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Midland, Texas Real First Name: Philip Camera: Polarock Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
04-20-2009, 01:55 PM
They must be run in parallel, otherwise they would be running on 1/2 voltage. This would also apply to incandescent lamps, although they would be able to run with reduced brightness & lower color temp. The fluorescents might not even be able to start on half voltage.
---------------------------
non impediti ratione cogitationis
| | | |
(#4)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 5,674 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Real First Name: Ken Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 83 |
04-20-2009, 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chihuahuaphil They must be run in parallel, otherwise they would be running on 1/2 voltage. This would also apply to incandescent lamps, although they would be able to run with reduced brightness & lower color temp. The fluorescents might not even be able to start on half voltage. |
parallel: absolutely, positively affirmative.
---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
| | | |
(#5)
| | Premium Member
Posts: 1,606 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sachse, Texas Real First Name: Glen Camera: Nikon D700 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 17 LIKES Given: 31 |
04-20-2009, 02:26 PM
Ditto, what the others said. -G | | | |
(#6)
| | Senior Member
Posts: 431 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Godley, Texas Real First Name: James Acy Camera: Sony Alpha 700 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
04-20-2009, 02:38 PM
Yes to parallel . . . but your diagram is not exactly correct. There should be instructions with the fixtures, but you can connect both black wires from the fixtures to the line cord, both white wires to the line cord and connect all the ground wires.
You can also connect one fixture to the other (blk to blk, white to white, etc) and then to the line cord. This probably seems like parallel but isn't.
---------------------------
Acy Mc
| | | |
(#7)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 708 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Michael Camera: Canon, Nikon, Bronica, Yashica Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 4 LIKES Given: 2 |
04-20-2009, 04:47 PM
These fixtures are the ones that come in those practically indestructible plastic packaging and sell for about ten bucks apiece. They're not really made to be dismantled, and the instructions consist pretty much of the standard list of litigation-generated warnings. Just a two-conductor power cord sticking out of the plastic housing.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback, guys. Parallel it is.
Best,
Michael | | | |
(#8)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,325 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mansfield, Texas Real First Name: Jeff Camera: Nikon D300/D70 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 50 LIKES Given: 31 |
04-20-2009, 05:37 PM
Make it really simple and feed an extention cord through the end of the box and plug both into it. No cutting/splicing/creating potential fire hazards!
---------------------------
"If you find a job you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life."
| | | |
(#9)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 708 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Michael Camera: Canon, Nikon, Bronica, Yashica Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 4 LIKES Given: 2 |
04-20-2009, 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff_Green Make it really simple and feed an extention cord through the end of the box and plug both into it. No cutting/splicing/creating potential fire hazards! | DOH! Now why on Earth didn't I think of that!  :  | | | |
(#10)
| | Uber Poster
Posts: 3,325 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mansfield, Texas Real First Name: Jeff Camera: Nikon D300/D70 Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 4 LIKES Received: 50 LIKES Given: 31 |
04-20-2009, 06:50 PM
That's why I'm a master electrician! (ok, really I'm a master electrician because I can pass a silly test, not because I know what I'm doing!)
---------------------------
"If you find a job you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life."
| | | |
(#11)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 5,674 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Real First Name: Ken Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 98 LIKES Given: 83 |
04-20-2009, 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acymc Yes to parallel . . . but your diagram is not exactly correct. There should be instructions with the fixtures, but you can connect both black wires from the fixtures to the line cord, both white wires to the line cord and connect all the ground wires.
You can also connect one fixture to the other (blk to blk, white to white, etc) and then to the line cord. This probably seems like parallel but isn't. |
yes, that is still parallel.
But a simple extension cord makes the most sense. And it will keep your insurance intact......
---------------------------
5th Generation Texian.
(line 2) Watch this, Spot!
(line 3) Have I shown you my photos of my grandson? Wait, don't run! Hey!
| | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | Google Sponsors | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
| |
Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. |