Can someone help me with a TV problem pls?

[Sherina W]

Ok I'm totally new to this forum and don't really know quite how it works, but hopefully someone will get this!

I had a shoot last week and it was at 8am, thinking that early would provide decent pictures. Well turns out, I was pissed b/c I woke up that morning with not ONE cloud in the damn sky! So needless to say, I had to hide in the shade to take the pics. Well I wanted my TV to be around 250 b/c of the kid running around and I couldn't get my camera to go past like 100! I had it in AV mode and wanted to speed up my shutter and it wouldn't let me?? Does anyone know why?

I was in the shade but there was a lot of light in the background, in the distance. I used eval metering so I'm sure my camera was metering the shade as well as the sunlight, but why wouldn't it let me go to 250??

Pls help me b/c I am going crazy trying to figure it out

[Westx]

What was your aperture and ISO set at? Did you try bumping up the ISO or opening up your aperture?

[Sherina W]

I try and keep my ISO as low as possible, so I've been taught. My exposure was 1/30 and I had a f11. I wanted to get a faster shutter speed so they wouldn't be blurry but my camera wouldn't let me. Do you think it was too bright? I know its hard to help me with this when you weren't there with me, but it was really bright and I was in the shade

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Sherina W

I try and keep my ISO as low as possible, so I've been taught. My exposure was 1/30 and I had a f11. I wanted to get a faster shutter speed so they wouldn't be blurry but my camera wouldn't let me. Do you think it was too bright? I know its hard to help me with this when you weren't there with me, but it was really bright and I was in the shade

Low ISO and f/11 is not going to help get your shutter speed up. Lower ISO does no good at all if the shutter is to slow for what you need.
Next time increase your ISO and/or open up to f/4 or f/2.8 if you can.

[J Eddington]

You were shooting in Aperture-priority. That means you set the Aperture at F11 and then the camera will then choose your shutter speed based on that and your ISO. In order to shoot faster you would have to change your settings to a lower Aperture, or higher ISO.

You said in your title you had it in TV mode, but then said AV mode in the thread.

[Jake]

Can you post a picture from the shoot?

[zeroendless]

Lenses used would be helpful.

You control the aperture in AV mode, and if you lenses allows you should able to turn 3 stops faster from F11, 1/30s to F4 1/250s. Smaller F-number, faster shutter speed.

A quick scan of surrounding exposure should give you an idea what ISO you should be in to get the desired shutter speed. If you must have the shutter at 1/250s, turn to TV mode, set the value after figuring out the ISO.

I was in the shade but there was a lot of light in the background, in the distance. I used eval metering so I'm sure my camera was metering the shade as well as the sunlight, but why wouldn't it let me go to 250??

Could be ya ISO too darn low or the area in the shade much larger than light in the background.

[Sherina W]

Sorry, in my title I said can someone help me with a tv problem, meaning I had a shutter problem but it was in Ap mode. I probably shouldn't have said "tv" in the title b/c that probably sounded like I had it in tv mode when I had it in ap mode....but I had a shutter problem

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jakestire- so you're saying that b/c my ISO was low and my Ap was at f11, it wouldn't let me increase my shutter? I just heard that if you increase your ISO, you'll pic will get noisy. Then I thought if you have your f-stop at like 4 or so, you'll get blurry pics, is that right?

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Originally Posted by thejakestir

Can you post a picture from the shoot?

I would but I don't know how to post a pic in this forum...sorry brand new to this!

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Sherina W

jakestire- so you're saying that b/c my ISO was low and my Ap was at f11, it wouldn't let me increase my shutter? I just heard that if you increase your ISO, you'll pic will get noisy. Then I thought if you have your f-stop at like 4 or so, you'll get blurry pics, is that right?

The higher the ISO the more noisy, yes. But who cares about noisy if your picture come out blurry due to a slow shutter. Noisy is much better then blur. Plus it doesn't really matter until you get to over ISO 800 on most newer cameras.

Shooting at f/4 or f/2.8 or f/1.4 doesn't mean your photos will be blurry, it just means you will have a shallower focus plane. It's called depth of field.
If I'm not using flash I almost always shoot at f/4 or lower when shooting portraits.

[S-Man]

With the 50D, you wont start to see noise until about 400 and up depending on if its properly exposed or not.
This is exactly why I shoot in manual mode, too. I used to shoot in Av mode all the time, but it began to drag the shutter alot of times so I just overcame that by shooting manual.
For a bright sunny day you can shoot at ISO 100-200 and still get pretty high shutter speeds if you keep the aperture around 4-8.

If you're unfamiliar with what settings will work well with a situation, switch to the 'green box' and take a shot. Look at the camera settings and it will give you an idea of what you need to be at to get a decently exposed shot.

I guess Jake beat me by a few seconds.

I also wanted to add that if your flash is popped up and it wants to flash, it will not go to a SS above, what? 1/250 on the 50D?

[Sherina W]

Zero- ok its making a lil' sense to me now. Oh lenses I used was the lens kit on the 50D, which was the 50-128mm. What do u mean 3 stops faster? How do I determine what my ISO should be at?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Sherina W

How do I determine what my ISO should be at?

If your shutter speed is to slow, raise the ISO up.

[Sherina W]

Originally Posted by thejakestir

The higher the ISO the more noisy, yes. But who cares about noisy if your picture come out blurry due to a slow shutter. Noisy is much better then blur. Plus it doesn't really matter until you get to over ISO 800 on most newer cameras.

Shooting at f/4 or f/2.8 or f/1.4 doesn't mean your photos will be blurry, it just means you will have a shallower focus plane. It's called depth of field.
If I'm not using flash I almost always shoot at f/4 or lower when shooting portraits.

thanks for explaining! Ok so I shouldn't be scared of increasing my ISO then...good to know! :o)

When I shoot portraits I use my 50mm/f2.8, only when I have 1 subject but when I shoot more than 1 person, I switch to my lens that came with my 50d, which is the 35-128 or something like that. And I increase my Aperture to f11 or so b/c I don't want blur. Is that wrong?

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Originally Posted by S-Man

With the 50D, you wont start to see noise until about 400 and up depending on if its properly exposed or not.
This is exactly why I shoot in manual mode, too. I used to shoot in Av mode all the time, but it began to drag the shutter alot of times so I just overcame that by shooting manual.
For a bright sunny day you can shoot at ISO 100-200 and still get pretty high shutter speeds if you keep the aperture around 4-8.

If you're unfamiliar with what settings will work well with a situation, switch to the 'green box' and take a shot. Look at the camera settings and it will give you an idea of what you need to be at to get a decently exposed shot.

I guess Jake beat me by a few seconds.

I also wanted to add that if your flash is popped up and it wants to flash, it will not go to a SS above, what? 1/250 on the 50D?

Hey that's a good idea about the green box. So if I have a problem, you're saying to shoot a pic in the green box mode and then take alook at the settings and then go from there?

I use to always shoot in manual too until I went on a shoot with my friend who is a pro and she always shoots in av mode.

Ok so I have a shoot next fri for a family, early in the morning. what time is good for outdoor morning shots? 7a?

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Originally Posted by Sherina W

Sorry, in my title I said can someone help me with a tv problem, meaning I had a shutter problem but it was in Ap mode. I probably shouldn't have said "tv" in the title b/c that probably sounded like I had it in tv mode when I had it in ap mode....but I had a shutter problem

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jakestire- so you're saying that b/c my ISO was low and my Ap was at f11, it wouldn't let me increase my shutter? I just heard that if you increase your ISO, you'll pic will get noisy. Then I thought if you have your f-stop at like 4 or so, you'll get blurry pics, is that right?

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I would but I don't know how to post a pic in this forum...sorry brand new to this!

U can go to my website if u wanta.. freespiritfoto.com

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Sherina W

When I shoot portraits I use my 50mm/f2.8, only when I have 1 subject but when I shoot more than 1 person, I switch to my lens that came with my 50d, which is the 35-128 or something like that. And I increase my Aperture to f11 or so b/c I don't want blur. Is that wrong?

You are right, if you are shooting a group then it's a good idea to shoot at f/11 or f/8 or the people in the back will be out of focus.
But when you do that you need to raise the ISO or add flash.

[Sherina W]

Originally Posted by thejakestir

You are right, if you are shooting a group then it's a good idea to shoot at f/11 or f/8 or the people in the back will be out of focus.
But when you do that you need to raise the ISO or add flash.

Well I don't have an external flash, which sux b/c I REALLY want the 580EX but I don't have the $$ right now so I'm not using any flash at all.

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Ok so another ???. So I have a family of 4 next week, two parents and two kiddo's. Obviously I want all of them in focus but how can I keep them in focus and have the bground a blur, what setting do u suggest?

Who should I focus on to make crisp clear?