wedding help for tomorrow

[tas9195]

I am shooting a wedding for a friend tomorrow afternoon. I have never done a wedding. Went tonight to take some shots to make sure what settings will work. Shots turned out good except when we were inside where the ceremony will take place and got the WB and ISO set ok, but the problem came when someone would move that part of them would come out blurry. This has been my achilles in learning to shoot. I am using the T1i with the Lens that came with it. EFS 18-55mm IS. The outside pics I took turned out good. I am shooting in Aperature mode. AV. I tried shooting in Shutter mode but the shots came out darker and that is the other learning curve I have yet to conquer is exp. comp. What do you suggest I do in order to make sure that this isn't a problem tomorrow. Hope someone can help me tonight. I am uploading some of the pics to my flickr site right now so I can show what I am talking about. Flickr: tass9195's Photostream

[KenJulio]

Motion blur is handled with a faster shutter speed. To get that, you'll need to lower your aperture and increase your ISO to get the SS needed to stop motion. The other option is to use a flash, assuming you're allowed to in the church.

You'll need to find that balance with your ISO and SS, shoot in manual so you can control your Aperture and SS.

[KenJulio]

I'll add, shooting with a kit lens such as the 18-55, it's going to be tough as it's not going to give you a wide enough aperture to freeze motion.

Could you provide the EXIF data for this one?

[tas9195]

Thanks for the help. I have messed with Manual a little and it just doesn't come out like I want it. This is for a friend of mine so I don't have any pressure. The pressure is all from me to learn something and at the same time give her some good shots too. Here is the EXIF file from flickr. It is also on my flickr site

Exif data

Camera Canon EOS REBEL T1i
Exposure 0.125 sec (1/8)
Aperture f/5.6
Focal Length 55 mm
ISO Speed 800
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Off, Did not fire
X-Resolution 240 dpi
Y-Resolution 240 dpi
Date and Time (Modified) 2011:05:20 20:09:19
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE
Date and Time (Original) 2011:05:20 17:43:37.12-05:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2011:05:20 17:43:37
Max Aperture Value 5.7
Subject Distance 3.49 m
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Sub Sec Time Original 12
Sub Sec Time Digitized 12
Focal Plane X-Resolution 5315.43624161074 dpi
Focal Plane Y-Resolution 5342.32715008432 dpi
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Manual
Scene Capture Type Standard
Compression JPEG (old-style)
XMPToolkit Adobe XMP Core 5.2-c004 1.136881, 2010/06/10-18:11:35
Rating 0
Lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Lens ID 48
Image Number 0
Approximate Focus Distance 3.49
Flash Compensation 0
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Off
Flash Function False
Flash Red Eye Mode False

[tas9195]

I thought the kit lens had something to do with it. I am thinking about looking at a better lens. Something at 2.8. Any recommendations. What do you think of the outside shots. Any suggestions.

[Flea77]

You are shooting at 1/8th of a second, you should be more like 1/125 at least to stop the motion blur. That would be four stops, or around f2.8 at 1600iso to pull that off, minimum. Since your lens wide open is only f5.6 at 55mm, you need to shoot with a flash.

Allan

[KenJulio]

What he said ^^^^

I presume the aperture youre at 5.6 is as wide(open) as that lens will get at 55mm? If so, you'll want to increase your ISO, possibly to 1600, increase your SS to 1/60th, 1/125 if you can get the exposure right. If the lighting is going to be close to what you sampled, you should have enough to go to 1/60th.

[Flea77]

Originally Posted by tas9195

I thought the kit lens had something to do with it. I am thinking about looking at a better lens. Something at 2.8. Any recommendations. What do you think of the outside shots. Any suggestions.

The lens is part of it, a f2.8 lens will give you more light, which means faster shutter. I am not familiar with the camera you have so I can't tell you the maximum ISO for reasonable images but 800 ISO isn't going to cut it. If you had a 2.8 lens and your ISO was pretty good looking at 1600 you might pull off the inside shots.

Seriously, if you need this by tomorrow get a good flash and bounce it.

Allan

[KenJulio]

Originally Posted by Flea77

The lens is part of it, a f2.8 lens will give you more light, which means faster shutter. I am not familiar with the camera you have so I can't tell you the maximum ISO for reasonable images but 800 ISO isn't going to cut it. If you had a 2.8 lens and your ISO was pretty good looking at 1600 you might pull off the inside shots.

Seriously, if you need this by tomorrow get a good flash and bounce it.

Allan

Bouncing flash will go a long ways, but check with the pastor before doing so as it could be considered rude/disturbing.

[camera shy]

Are you shooting .jpeg or RAW? RAW would give you a bit more latitude (not recommended everyday).

[Flea77]

Oops, yeah, always ask BEFORE flashing anyone :-)

Allan

[tas9195]

Yeah I will ask about the flash but it is built in and I don't know if it will be too much. I am shooting in RAW but I am just worried about not blurring. The only way I guess to get the SS up is to go Manual. Hopefully they will turn out. Thanks for all the quick replies. Any suggestions on upgrading to a better lens. You are right about the 5.6 being widest at 55. I got it up to 4.0 when closer but I won't be able to get that close during the ceremony. As is shoots good up to 1600 ISO so far that I have seen. Luckily this is a family friend and she isn't expecting too much. I am just trying to save them some money and get me some experience.

[KenJulio]

The 24-105 f4 is a nice lens which will do a lot and you gain a stop(f4 vs 5.6) at the telephoto end of 105. Manufacturer's 2.8 glass are not cheap to put it simply, I would say go with a 50 1.8 and shoot that at 2.8 and you'll get sharper images from that compared to the 18-55 at 55 at f5.6, then you can go with a longer prime such as the 85 1.8 and that will have you at under 5-600 for both lenses. If you go with the 24-105, that's around 800 used.

This post has shots taken with the 85 1.8 I forgot which body Adrian(contributor_m) was shooting.

http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum...ml#post1285149

[spluloacle]

I have your camera. If you shoot with a 50mm II f/1.8 you will be able to get a lot of what you want. The thing is it does not zoom. I currently use a 28-135 lens and I like it but inside I use a flash with a light scoop. light scoop digital photography pop-up flash Olympus Nikon Fuji Canon Pentax

Since it is tomorrow I am not sure what to suggest except maybe rent a better lens?

[spluloacle]

Originally Posted by KenJulio

The 24-105 f4 is a nice lens which will do a lot and you gain a stop(f4 vs 5.6) at the telephoto end of 105. Manufacturer's 2.8 glass are not cheap to put it simply, I would say go with a 50 1.8 and shoot that at 2.8 and you'll get sharper images from that compared to the 18-55 at 55 at f5.6, then you can go with a longer prime such as the 85 1.8 and that will have you at under 5-600 for both lenses. If you go with the 24-105, that's around 800 used.

This post has shots taken with the 85 1.8 I forgot which body Adrian(contributor_m) was shooting.

http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum...ml#post1285149

And you should be good with 1600 ISO though in some instances you will get noise.