Improve this shot?This is a discussion on Improve this shot? within the Photo Tips forums, part of the Photography Information category; I'm looking for ways this shot of peppermint patties could be improved.
I did what I could with what I ...
(#1)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 4,039 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Dennis Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 93 LIKES Given: 39 | Improve this shot? -
12-13-2006, 09:33 PM
I'm looking for ways this shot of peppermint patties could be improved.
I did what I could with what I know which isn't a whole lot.
Lighting:
One softbox camera left and one black flag camera right close to the subject to add shadow.
Food Prep:
Nothing, really. Just some glycerin/water mix on the leaf.
Post:
Just some contrast, a little sharpening, and a little color correction in the leaf. Nothing major.
So what kind of things could I do to improve? I couldn't figure out what to do to the chocolate to make it look better. The chaulkiness I didn't mind because it almost gave it a cool frost look which kind of fits the subject but I'm sure it could look tons better. And I didn't know what to do with the lighting. I like dramatically lit food so I stuck with one light. Thoughts?  | | | | | Sponsored Links | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
|
(#2)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 13,314 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Real First Name: Brad (duh) Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 12 LIKES Received: 136 LIKES Given: 33 |
12-13-2006, 09:40 PM
Disclaimer: I know NOTHING about food photography.
#1: Use a knife to break the patty... get a clean break so it looks like it *snapped* in half.. you're advertising clean, cool, fresh, sharp.
#2: Get the chocolate damp.. maybe with just water, maybe with the same glycerin.. you want it to shine.
#3: Consistent background.. my eyes are being drawn to the white corner in the bottom right.
Whites look fantastic.. and the leaf is perfect..
--------------------------- Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits Honest critiques always welcomed. An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903 | | | |
(#3)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 4,039 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Dennis Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 93 LIKES Given: 39 |
12-13-2006, 09:52 PM
Thanks Brad.
In regards to #2, I was thinking the same thing during set up. I wanted a nice shine to the chocolate (or at least thought it was worth a try) and I tried a couple different things. First I tried water and glycerin. The problem with that it pooled and just made the chocolate look like it got wet. Why would chocolate be wet? haha. So then I tried Vaseline. I've used it on fruit before but the chocolate had too much texture. So not only could i not evenly coat the chocolate, the chocolate was starting to melt and smudge with any pressure. What i didn't try was some sort of gloss spray. Don't know if that would have worked or not. | | | |
(#4)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 13,314 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Real First Name: Brad (duh) Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 12 LIKES Received: 136 LIKES Given: 33 |
12-13-2006, 10:29 PM
That's an idea.. maybe a hair spray?
I'd spray it first, cut it second.
--------------------------- Brad Barton, Grand Prairie, TX (DFW) Twitter -- Blog -- Headshots -- Portraits Honest critiques always welcomed. An artist is not paid for his labor, but for his vision. -- James Whistler, Painter, 1834-1903 | | | |
(#5)
| | Bit herder
Posts: 3,265 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx, Real First Name: Gordon Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-13-2006, 10:37 PM
Maybe stick the chocolate in the freezer, then you'll get some condensation on it to make it look wet/damp ?
Also, try a polariser, let you control the reflections on the water on the leaf and saturate the green a bit more - you don't want to kill all the reflections, but you'll be able to control it then.
Even or in theme background, bring whatever that dark texture is all the way through to the corner, or not. | | | |
(#6)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 816 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trophy Club, Real First Name: Paul Camera: Canon 5D Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Maybe coat it in vegtable oil for a shine? You can get a frost if you turn an air can upside down and spray it on the cookie.
Paul | | | |
(#7)
| | Forum Regular
Posts: 551 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Real First Name: Keith Camera: Sony A300 Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-14-2006, 12:14 AM
Try PAM cooking spray on the chocolate. It might bead up, too, though.
I do know that if you add a tiny drop of dish soap to water it won't bead up because the surface-tension is destroyed, so you can mist it on and it will hold a coating for a few seconds or more. Might be something you could try.
The blurry area top-center keeps holding my attention, but overall the photo looks great. | | | |
(#8)
| | You Can't Be Serious!!
Posts: 9,327 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas Real First Name: Andrew Camera: 1D3, 7D, 5D2, LX3 Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 8 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-14-2006, 12:59 AM
Cool shot. I like the idea.. I really have nothing more to add from the above suggestions.
Thanks for sharing. | | | |
(#9)
| | Rest in peace John...
Posts: 10,238 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dublin, TX, Real First Name: Stovall Camera: Leica M8/Leica X1/Canon 1DsMkIII/Canon 5DMkII/Leica M7/Leicaflex SL2/Ricoh GR-DIII Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 17 LIKES Received: 1 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-14-2006, 06:44 AM
Get all the patty in focus. I find the out of focus area which is at the bottom of the break very distracting. Other than that, nice work...
--------------------------- "The market wants a Leica to be a Leica: the inheritor of tradition, the subject of lore, and indisputably a mark of status to own." Mike Johnston | | | |
(#10)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 5,073 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: N. Richland Hills, (Ft. Worth) Texas, Texas Real First Name: Paul Camera: Canon 1DMkIII Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 1 LIKES Received: 26 LIKES Given: 24 |
12-14-2006, 08:03 AM
I'd say less leaf and more patty. Since the Patty is the subject.
The leaf is the first thing my eyes were drawn to when the image appeared, and if I didn't know it was a peppermint patty, it would have taken a moment to figure it out. | | | |
(#11)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 4,039 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Dennis Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 93 LIKES Given: 39 |
12-14-2006, 09:40 AM
Thanks, guys!
Headed back into the stew-dee-oh now.... | | | |
(#12)
| | Forum Master
Posts: 1,479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: frisco, Texas Real First Name: Fran Camera: Canon 5D MarkII Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 0 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-14-2006, 09:54 AM
I agree with much of what's stated. Entire patty in focus, more patty-less leaf, like the idea of putting it in the freezer to see if you can get more "shine", you might also try a less soft light source so you get more specularity on the patty... but then you have to condend with the leaf which is drawing too much attention already. Maybe a fresh but dry mint leaf... I don't think it needs to look all wet. Just show it's natural texture. Is that even a mint leaf???
--------------------------- ~Fran Reisner www.franreisner.com I should own stock in Canon! "Life isn't the number of breaths you take, but the moments that take your breath away." ~don't know who said it, but I like it!
Last edited by fran reisner; 12-14-2006 at 11:06 AM..
| | | |
(#13)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 4,039 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Real First Name: Dennis Camera: Nikon Can Others Edit My Photos: No iTrader Rating: 9 LIKES Received: 93 LIKES Given: 39 |
12-14-2006, 10:37 AM
Quote: |
Originally Posted by fran reisner Is that even a mind leaf??? |
Shhhhhhhhhh!
Of course it is! What else would it be?  | | | |
(#14)
| | Bit herder
Posts: 3,265 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx, Real First Name: Gordon Camera: Canon Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 2 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 0 |
12-14-2006, 10:38 AM
Looks more like some random green fern ;) Aren't mint leaves solid along the edges and kinda oval shaped ? :) | | | |
(#15)
| | Supa Dupa Poster
Posts: 4,035 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richardson, TX (DFW), Texas Real First Name: edd Camera: Canon 50D Can Others Edit My Photos: Yes iTrader Rating: 3 LIKES Received: 0 LIKES Given: 3 |
12-14-2006, 10:39 AM
One idea may be to try to get the patty in front of the leaf ... setting the leaf in the front implies the leaf is more important ... also the green is much brighter than the chocolate so the green is gonna be dominant ... laying the cut patty somehow over the leaf will mute the dominance of the green 
--------------------------- Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss | | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | Google Sponsors | Premium Members do not see Google advertisements. SIGN UP today and help support our community.
| |
Copyright ©2004 - 2011, Abel Longoria - www.Pixtus.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. |