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Lighting? setting? contrast? lens? what is it? - 01-06-2008, 10:13 AM


While surfing through this great site, looking at diffrent photos,
i see some that look "flat"
then i see some that look "glossy"

almost like when i use Digital Photo Pro, with my raw pics, going to "liniar" from standard,

is it the prossesing, the lens or what??

i cant seem to get that "crisp-glossy" look

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Examples?

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01-06-2008, 10:36 AM


http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum...ght=70-300+zoo

this link shows the example of the "glossy" look i see,

then theres the flat dull look,
almost like the old days using glossy or semi-gloss paper,

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01-06-2008, 10:49 AM


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http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum...ght=70-300+zoo

this link shows the example of the "glossy" look i see,

then theres the flat dull look,
almost like the old days using glossy or semi-gloss paper,
to me my shot here i took this morning if flat, dull,
missing the "glossy-look"

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01-06-2008, 10:56 AM


Adjusting contrast, saturation and/or vibrance (if using Lightroom) will give more pop to your photographs.

Personally I like the "dull" example.
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01-06-2008, 11:00 AM


Using a curves adjustment layer with a slight S-curve and a little tweak in white point and saturation bump would increase the contrast.
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01-06-2008, 11:09 AM


all i have is the Digital Photo Profesional, and an old photoshop 6

i think the right word im looking for is the "vivid" colors i see,

i dont seem to get them straight off the camera, might be the crappy 28-80 lens or me,
im using a new Xti by the way,
and i shoot raw+jpeg

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if any of you want to re-do my pic for a comparison, please do,

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01-06-2008, 11:11 AM


You can adjust contrast and saturation settings in your camera. Mess around with those until you get the look you like right out of the camera.
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You can adjust contrast and saturation settings in your camera. Mess around with those until you get the look you like right out of the camera.
thanks, ill try it,

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if any of you want to re-do my pic for a comparison, please do,
This might be over-the-top for you:
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01-06-2008, 11:37 AM


Hi John,

Here is my edit. This is Photoshop edit only. In DPP you can open the raw image in the edtor, hit Ctrl-T to get the tool palette and there you can make adjustments to the photo in the raw state and then transfer it to photoshop (Alt-P).

I used a levels layer to lighten the photo (midlevel to 0.83), a hue/sat layer to increase the saturation by 20. I then used a curves layer to create an S-curve to increase the contrast (1. input point 176, output 202 2. input point 71, output 55). I also increased the blue color a bit by using input point 121 and output 132.

I use Photoshop CS (I also have CS3) but I think you could do all of this in version 6 (I think I have 7 on some machine somewhere, but can't find it<g>)

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01-06-2008, 11:42 AM


John,

Forgot: When you have the saturation and contrast to where you want it, you can always go back to the levels layer and adjust the brightness. This is one reason why I like keeping the levels and curves separate. Curves can do anything that levels can do, just different interface. I like both, so I generally use both:) I use an action to add those layers and then use a shortcut key to run the action. Since I use this for just about every photo I process it makes it quicker to access:)

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01-06-2008, 11:45 AM


Here's another edit: I moved to LAB, set a white point and black point. Then steepened curves in A and B channel pretty severely. Took less than a minute, and can easily be done in PS 6.

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01-06-2008, 11:49 AM


You'll never get the crisp glossy look on a monitor. You have to print to get that on a high quality ink jet printer with good color managment and the right paper and then you can do as good or better than a wet darkroom print.

Is your monitor calibrated even?

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