Printing help

[SilverShooter]

Bill

Thanks for the feedback. The View/Proof Colors setting must have transferred over when I loaded CS3. I sure don't remember doing anything like that. I did set my "Color Settings" to "North America Prepress 2" during the setup process and that might have included the preview check box.

Anyhow, its good that you're up and running the way you wanted.

Steve

[w_nelson]

[QUOTE=SilverShooter]Bill

I did set my "Color Settings" to "North America Prepress 2" during the setup process and that might have included the preview check box.

Steve:

I looked into this setting using CS3's help function. Bottom line, if you go to Edit, Color Settings and choose "North America Prepress 2" as recommended in Cs3's documentation, the "View, Proof Colors" toggle is not necessary. In fact, if you don't make the above change in the Edit, Color Settings, "Settings" box as you described, you have to toggle "View Proof Colors" every time you want to print an image.

I hope that's clear. I don't know how I missed the suggested change to the default Color Settings option. Anyway, your setting is the preferred or suggested setting per the Adobe documentation and is the correct solution to my original problem.

Wow. What a waste of everybody's time, unless this thread helps someone else avoid this confusion.

Bill

[shutterdrone]

Originally Posted by w_nelson

In fact, if you don't make the above change in the Edit, Color Settings, "Settings" box as you described, you have to toggle "View Proof Colors" every time you want to print an image.

From this article: http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps1...10_print_1.htm if you hold down ALT, the 'Done' button changes to 'Remember', and it'll save your settings for future printing.

!c

[SilverShooter]

I love the result of CS3, but often wonder if its worth the trouble. There is so much to control that is either undocumented, or buried so deeply in the techno jargon, that I doubt very many of us have all the settings where we would like them to be if we really understood the software. I learned the color setting issues at an Epson Print Academy workshop, but had no idea it triggered the use of the paper profiles. Thanks for the feedback.

[TxManx]

My 2c on this - the one thing I haven't seen mentioned is you're comparing a back-lit photography with a printed photograph.

Naturally, it's going to have a brighter appearance...

To get a similar effect on your prints, put them on a light table (dark frame around them for few inches)...you'll see a similar output to what you see on your monitor...

[Arnor]

Steve, guys

Have you tried to have your printers calibrated? I don't know if it would make any difference if the colors are ok, but the brightness isn't??? I use the Epson profiles with my 2200 and the colors look right, but the prints are always a bit darker than the screen.

Best regards,

[w_nelson]

Originally Posted by TxManx

My 2c on this - the one thing I haven't seen mentioned is you're comparing a back-lit photography with a printed photograph.

Naturally, it's going to have a brighter appearance...

Ken:

I referred to this phenomena in my original post. As you pointed out, transmitted light is generally perceived to be brighter than reflected light, as with photographic prints. Actually, I have to view a print under the direct light of a desktop halogen lamp to judge whether the exposure is close to correct. With some practice you can get output that pretty much matches what you see on the screen; a far cry from my early attempts some years ago.

Bill

[johnastovall]

To get correct prints you need to start with a fully color managed work flow.

And here are the two best works to start understanding this very complex subject.

Real World Color Management (Paperback)
by Bruce Fraser (Author), Fred Bunting (Author), Chris Murphy (Author)



Color Management for Photographers
Hands on Techniques for Photoshop Users

By the way prints would be not view under just any light halogen or other wise but a D50 light source.