ACR issues

[iCe]

Yeah... that's it. They just released an upgrade so if you install from the disk you might want to follow the link and DL the upgrade. I didn't see any difference when I upgraded but they are bound to have released it for some reason If you install from the disk you won't need to run regedit. Just DL and install.

I use it to convert ACR files to TIFF and then edit in CS3 but it will do a direct to JPG conversion.

[lscottpht]

Originally Posted by iCe

Yeah... that's it. They just released an upgrade so if you install from the disk you might want to follow the link and DL the upgrade. I didn't see any difference when I upgraded but they are bound to have released it for some reason If you install from the disk you won't need to run regedit. Just DL and install.

I use it to convert ACR files to TIFF and then edit in CS3 but it will do a direct to JPG conversion.

Cool, thanks!! I will def. try that tonight, when I get my computer back from the kids...lol!

[iCe]

I think you'll like it. One thing I forgot to mention, you can also edit the RAW file and then save it as a RAW file (new name).

If you open the file in DPP and the colors are still hosed up you probably have a camera setting issue. That would suck... as in it will cause you a lot of extra work...

I hope not

[lscottpht]

Originally Posted by iCe

I think you'll like it. One thing I forgot to mention, you can also edit the RAW file and then save it as a RAW file (new name).

If you open the file in DPP and the colors are still hosed up you probably have a camera setting issue. That would suck... as in it will cause you a lot of extra work...

I hope not

Lol, yeah, that would suck! But, since it seems to be happening with both of the Canon cameras that I used, I'm thinking it's not. I am so hoping this DPP will help! Getting tired of all this extra work, and still not getting it correct in CS2. I'm not good enough with Photoshop to be able to fix the images.

[iCe]

Originally Posted by lscottpht

Lol, yeah, that would suck! But, since it seems to be happening with both of the Canon cameras that I used, I'm thinking it's not. I am so hoping this DPP will help! Getting tired of all this extra work, and still not getting it correct in CS2. I'm not good enough with Photoshop to be able to fix the images.

Me too neither... and I can't seem to ever be around when someone has one of the rare CS_ workshops.

DPP has pretty simple adjustments. Tab #1 is raw exposure and white balance (there's more but I don't use them so I don't remember them), tab#2 is brightness, contrast, saturation, and sharpness (again, there are a few more but I don't use them), tab #3 is noise removal but since I have NN I don't use it.

BTW- Good luck with the computer wrestling match

[billbunton]

Remember that Bridge will show the JPEG previews until it gets it's own previews built using ACR -- at which point it will match ACR's rendition. That's assuming you're not shooting RAW+JPEG, in which case I assume bridge would show the rendered RAW but don't know for sure.

[lscottpht]

I was shooting RAW + JPEG, so Bridge was showing both of these, which matched each other until I opened up the RAW in ACR. Then, when I looked at it in Bridge, it showed ACR's version instead.

[lscottpht]

Originally Posted by iCe

Me too neither... and I can't seem to ever be around when someone has one of the rare CS_ workshops.

DPP has pretty simple adjustments. Tab #1 is raw exposure and white balance (there's more but I don't use them so I don't remember them), tab#2 is brightness, contrast, saturation, and sharpness (again, there are a few more but I don't use them), tab #3 is noise removal but since I have NN I don't use it.

BTW- Good luck with the computer wrestling match

Cool...that's all I really need, so that will be great. Will the images open from there directly into CS2?

[iCe]

Let me check....

Yep... Tools--> Transfer to Photoshop

Personally I edit them (kind of like a Bridge environment but not), then do a Batch save to TIF (or JPG if you want) then open them in Bridge, rate them, then open in CS.

The main screen is a bunch of thumbnails. Double click an image and the image opens in a different window. Then on the main title bar (not the image) there is a Tool button (not Tools. That's a different one). The Tool button will pop the adjustment window up. Then in the main window there is File--> Batch Process

[lscottpht]

Cool...thanks!! I'm looking forward to trying it!

[jeffkohn]

Originally Posted by KdLaneJr

Jeff,

I agree with everything you've told Leslie about sliders, etc. but that doesn't really explain why she is seeing different things in ACR between Bridge and CS2.

I understood the difference to be when comparing the JPEG versus the RAW from shooting RAW + JPEG. That's to be expected.

If that's not the problem then I guess I need a better explanation of what's happening.

[jeffkohn]

Originally Posted by lscottpht

I was shooting RAW + JPEG, so Bridge was showing both of these, which matched each other until I opened up the RAW in ACR. Then, when I looked at it in Bridge, it showed ACR's version instead.

That's normal. When you first browse to a folder in Bridge, it will extract the JPEG thumnail from the raw file and use that as the preview. But in the background it will work on rendering high-quality previews. It uses ACR to do this preview rendering, which makes sense if you think about it.

I still think the problem you're seeing is that you just need to get the settings in ACR dialed in to get the results that you want. ACR will not automatically render just like the JPEG version, it uses a separate rendering engine with separate settings. The fact that you had contrast/saturation pumped up in the camera will have absolutely no effect on the way ACR renders the file. Also keep in mind that ACR default settings are per-camera, so if you've tweaked the defaults for the camera you normally use and then download files from another camera model you won't get those tweaked default settings.

[KdLaneJr]

I think Bill has solved the issue in post #36.

I didn't realize that RAW thumbnails would show in Bridge with picture styles applied, yet open in ACR without them.

I don't see this phenomena since I don't use picture styles.

Filed away for future knowledge point....

[KdLaneJr]

Sorry Jeff,

You slipped that last post in between my typing and posting to your previous.

All makes sense though not obvious to me at first.

Ken

[billbunton]

Originally Posted by lscottpht

I was shooting RAW + JPEG, so Bridge was showing both of these, which matched each other until I opened up the RAW in ACR. Then, when I looked at it in Bridge, it showed ACR's version instead.

Then it's exactly that -- the RAW is showing the JPEG preview until Bridge gets around to building it's own preview, either over time or when you open it in ACR. As Jeff said, ACR (and no other RAW converter, except Canon's) will read or use any of the in-camera settings aside from white balance. So if you want to get RAWs that look exactly like the JPEGs, then DPP is what you need.