need some help here - photo attached..

[janetg]

it's the age old arguement here between myself and this lady i process for...

she sent me this photo - she did in LR - which her adjustment formula..she is using the prophoto colorspace..

help me out here...does this stink or what?

i have a link to some of the other edits, pM me if you wish to give me an honest critique - i have to be able to tell her one way or another whose monitor is whack.

thanks - janetg

[CincoJoe]

Not much to work with there. Very flat. Is this a shot from a wedding?

[janetg]

thank you - this is a post processing issue here - yes it was shot from a wedding - i didn't shoot it, but i'm processing it. the ones that i have done the lady is saying they are all over-saturated and gross looking.

this was her rendition she did in lightroom...i think it stinks big time!

this is my rendition from lightroom backing off saturation..which to me, make it look washed out.




the same photo in bibble does look too saturated, but stil lthe colors are in line with the first edit -



to me - hers looks way too 'green'

[daveb]

The 1st (The OP) looks so instamatic old school !
I actually kinda ... like...it...

[CincoJoe]

lol, it does look old school...lol

[Daylon]

Maybe as a sepia?

D>

[The Philos]

The original looks flat and has a greenish tint to me also.

[princessmocha]

Here's mine. I used a "color pop" action + diffuse glow + vignetting. ...

I tried cropping the image, but the "floating head" just didn't look right no matter how i cropped it.

[CincoJoe]

I think there are some photos that you just can't help...lol

[KdLaneJr]

The easiest way to tell her whose monitor is 'whack' is to calibrate yours. Then the issue becomes her monitor only.

I agree with the green cast. Move the color sampler over the image in PS and watch the info. You will not only see the dominant color channel, but you will see how dominant it is.

While ProPHoto is the largest color space to work in, there is no point in working in it if she does not know what she is doing. Also, if her monitor cannot represent the ProPhoto colorspace or her printer profile cannot fully handle the color space she is introducing more problems.

The first photo is very flat besides appearing to have a color cast.

One of the most common reasons given for flat images is failing to convert from Argb to Srgb before saving for the internet. I can't imagine how much flatter working in Prophoto and not converting to Srgb could make an image.

Originally Posted by janetg

it's the age old arguement here between myself and this lady i process for...

she sent me this photo - she did in LR - which her adjustment formula..she is using the prophoto colorspace..

help me out here...does this stink or what?

i have a link to some of the other edits, pM me if you wish to give me an honest critique - i have to be able to tell her one way or another whose monitor is whack.

thanks - janetg

[LoungeLizard]

I'm not keen on any of them, but the one thing I can say is that when you're processing for someone else you need to match THEIR style and their taste. When I sent out a couple of weddings last year, the company I worked with sent me a bunch of questions and asked for samples of what I liked so they could match. They didn't care if it was crap - as long as it looked like MY crap.

So, my take? Make it look like her crap.

[KdLaneJr]

Well that did it.

I've opened the first image in PSCS2 and LR. They both look much better than the image in IE 7. Doesn't that beat all. Also, there does not appear to be a significant color cast.

[KdLaneJr]

Here is the difference I am seeing. The image in the forefront is Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, this image looks similiar in LR and PSCS2. The underlaying image is what I am seeing in IE7.

[janetg]

kd - take that image and then export if from lightroom using the prophoto colorspace - that's what i'm getting - the underlying image...and i don't think it's correct.

from what i've been reading - miller's and other labs all use the srgb colorspace - so wouldn't exporting to that colorspace be appropriate?

i've not had this issue until using lightroom for raw processing. its' very frustrating, the person i'm processing for uses a mac - i'm on a pc...etc...you get the idea.

jesus - while it's easy to say - process it to loook like her stuff - you start 'guessing' at what the real color values are - if i had to produce 1200 images all with that greenish tint -there's just no way i could guestimate if they are correct.

[KdLaneJr]

Exported using Custom and the Prophoto colorspace. Still not seeing the difference you are.

I'm stumped.

I agree, exporting to the colorspace of the intended printshop would be appropriate and yield the best results.

If I 'open with' IE7, I see the difference you have posted.
Tried exporting using sRGB and 'open with' IE7 and the colors look like they should.

That leads me to say you should export using sRGB for what you send back to her, particularly if it will be proofed on the web.