Bluebonnets out of gamut for printer

[canoflan]

Okay, here is a first for me.

I submitted a bluebonnet picture to simplycanvas.com for printing and creating a gallery wrap, however, since the bluebonnet is a macro type photo and the actual leaves of the bluebonnet plant is the main subject, tweaking the indigo blue of the bluebonnet is not possible to get it in gamut and to render it like the original.

I believe them and they are holding the order till I make an artistic/technical decision on changing the photo to get it in gamut.

Has anyone here run into this with macro bluebonnet photos and if so, let me know what you have done, in PS, to solve the issue and render the true blue/indigo of the bluebonnets to your satisfaction.

Thanks so much,
Pat

[luis_relampago]

you can always correct the color on LAB and check the info palette for the CMYK alarms tweak it till you get a color you are content with and it's also with in the CMYK gamut range, also remember that your monitor has to be calibrated for this.
An indigo blue that vivid it's going to be way out of the CMYK color gamut, so you have to budge between a blue not as brilliant, but you can trick photoshop into invent a color similar to it in LAB it takes time and lots of tweaking. good luck!

[tjones0214]

Weird. Not really sure what to tell you w/out having the photo. I assume you shot in RAW and are submitting a JPEG? What colorspace are you retouching in and/or printing in. If you're going from Adobe RGB 1998 or ProPhoto to sRGB, you'll definitely loose color range. You may want to ask if the printer can supply you with the color ICC profile of the printer and/or the paper they're using. Either may help in matching the color in PS. Sorry if I'm missing the point. If you're matching their specs, there should not be a gamut issue?? Let me know if I can help.

[Gordon]

assuming you have all the various bits profiled and calibrated (monitor mainly) and have a profile for the printer, you can soft proof the image in photoshop (with the gamut warnings on)

You can then use the selective colour adjustments to move the out of gamut colours towards a printable colour in that output space.

I've had this problem before with particularly vivid oranges and purples, when printing macro flowers. You'll have to find an alternative colour that looks similar enough but is in gamut.

[canoflan]

Originally Posted by Gordon

assuming you have all the various bits profiled and calibrated (monitor mainly) and have a profile for the printer, you can soft proof the image in photoshop (with the gamut warnings on)

You can then use the selective colour adjustments to move the out of gamut colours towards a printable colour in that output space.

I've had this problem before with particularly vivid oranges and purples, when printing macro flowers. You'll have to find an alternative colour that looks similar enough but is in gamut.

Yeah, I have all the calibration, ICC profiles from the printers and stuff. You have most closely addressed my question which is where to move the color that when soft proofing is way out of gamut for the printer.

I will have to tweak until I get something satisfactory, I understand. I was wondering what others had done for particularly bluebonnets since that is a common theme in the forum this time of year.

I know I have printed bluebonnet pictures before that I liked the color, so I plan to copy that color and match it in this photo. I will get back with you guys on what I end up doing.

Pat

[a1shots]

Having tried different print companies i have come to the conclusing there are a lot of ranges in the blue spectrum are a difficult for inkjet printers to match. I first noticed this with a canvas I had made at FinerWorks on a matte canvas. Looking back now I think the the blues were okay but I wanted to get more accurate to the tones I had on my hardware calibrated monitor. A year later I called them up to have another copy made for the client but I wanted to see if I could get more accuracy in the blues. They looked up my order and told me that it was a limitation with the type of printer (HP5500)that was being used back then amd suggested a different canvas which was printed on an Epson 9880 which they said had a better gamut range. The results were better than the first print but still not exact. I was pretty frustrated since I had been using the ICC profiles they provided. I then took this image to a local place which I have never had a problem with in the past even though they are more expensive. It turned out that their version was worse. My conclusion is that certain blues hues are just plain troublesome regardless.