I need help w/ infared in ps5.0

[beard]

I love the infared look in pictures where the leaves look white like snow. How do I do this in Photoshop Elements 5.0. I currently use the full edit mode and change the photo to the B&W infared, but it is not as dramatic. Is there something I should do differently in camera?

Thanks!

[venchka]

Yep. Do it right in the first place. Shoot infrared. Either film or a converted DSLR.

[beard]

Originally Posted by venchka

Yep. Do it right in the first place. Shoot infrared. Either film or a converted DSLR.

I have a canon film slr. How do I convert it? I leave the DSLR alone.

[bburton]

Here's a good starting place for folks just starting into IR -- digital or film. Good luck.

http://www.irbuzz.blogspot.com/

[The Loft Studios]

Originally Posted by beard

I have a canon film slr. How do I convert it? I leave the DSLR alone.

If you have a film SLR, then all you need to purchase is some Infared Film and a Deep Red Filter.....

[beard]

Originally Posted by The Loft Studios

If you have a film SLR, then all you need to purchase is some Infared Film and a Deep Red Filter.....

I'm surprised, but I guess it would not have the ability for post processing. I have an old pentax slr (fully manual) and a canon rebel slr.

Who does this kind of modification?

[The Loft Studios]

Originally Posted by beard

I'm surprised, but I guess it would not have the ability for post processing. I have an old pentax slr (fully manual) and a canon rebel slr.

Who does this kind of modification?

I'm not sure I quite understand what your question and/or comment is here.....
But simply purchase either some Color or B&W Infared Film (you'll need the Red Filter for the B&W). Follow the instructions that comes with the Film (experimentation is advisable). Then take it to your local "Professional" Lab (Wal-Mart, Walgreens, and the such WON'T work) and they will process and print the work. That's it! If you want it for your computer, you can have your Lab scan the images at the time of processing and put them onto a CD for you or you can scan them your self depending on the type of scanner you have (Print Scanner or Film Scanner).

There you go.....

[arlon]

For starters just use a IR filter on the lens of your dslr. I did that for a time but finally got a used D70 for cheap and converted that. For starters, it's hard to beat an IR filter in the bang for buck catagory. There are some issues but nothing you can't learn.

[venchka]

One word of caution: True IR filters are very nearly opaque. Difficult to see through. A rangefinder camera works very well for this use. The filter is over the lens, but the viewfinder/rangefinder is still nice and bright for focusing and composing. An alternative: Put your SLR on a tripod. Focus (remember the IR focus shift) and compose and then put the filter on.

Freestyle Photo sells IR film. Kodak stopped making some or all of their IR color films in the last year or so. You might be able to find some. DIY black & white developing is easy, simple & cheap.

Good Luck!

[arlon]

look in this gallery. This guy does a great job of explaining a lot of IR details. Also a good idea of what you can do with nothing more than a filter!
http://www.pbase.com/dlarson2/infrared_images

[beard]

Thanks everyone for the information. ebay has some converted ds cameras and I may shop there for one. Film & development seem to be dying in ir.

[venchka]

Only if you kill them. The film works. The chemistry works.

B&H list IR film in 135 & 120 rolls & 4x5 sheets. They have Ilford's SFX 200. That is a highly red sensitive film that responds like true IR film with the use of regular color filters. No need for an opaque IR filter.

SFX 200 Infrared 120mm Black & White Print Film - Ilford has over 100 years of expertise in black and white photography, and continues to develop outstanding products for both picture taking and print making. SFX 200 is a medium speed panchromatic film which has peak red sensitivity at 720nm, and extended red sensitivity up to 740nm. Wedge spectrogram to tungsten light (2850K). This film produces dramatic infrared results, which will offer the photographer new creative dimensions.

When using SFX 200 film with a red filter, the film is exposed using only red light. Areas which reflect little red light, e.g. the sky, will be low density areas on the negative and dark areas on the print. Areas which are excellent reflectors of red light, e.g. most green foliage, will be high density areas on the negative and light areas on the print.

Any yellow, orange or red filter can be used, but the effect will depend on its transmission characteristics. The redder the filter, the more dramatic the effect. Ilford especially recommends the Ilford SFX filter which is optimized to the film's spectral sensitivity. Suggested filters include:


Light red
B+W 090, Cokin 003, Heliopan 25, Hitech 25, Hoya 25A, Kodak Wratten 25 and Lee 25.
Dark red
B+W 091, Heliopan 29 and Kodak Wratten 29
Very dark red
ILFORD SFX, B+W 092, Heliopan RG695, Hoya R72 and Kodak Wratten 89B

Key Features
• Extended red sensitivity
• Ease of handling in subdued lighting
• Produces negatives of normal contrast
• Ease of printing on mid-range paper grades
• Compatible with standard black and white developers

Shooting a few rolls of SFX 200 to see if you like IR at all would be a lot cheaper than buying a dedicated camera.

[venchka]

Freestyle Photo has a larger selection of IR film than B&H.

[beard]

I need 35mm film for my slr.

I have never developed film in my life. IR sounds even harder. I'm easily overwhelmed by the thought of it all.

[beard]

Originally Posted by The Loft Studios

I'm not sure I quite understand what your question and/or comment is here.....
But simply purchase either some Color or B&W Infared Film (you'll need the Red Filter for the B&W). Follow the instructions that comes with the Film (experimentation is advisable). Then take it to your local "Professional" Lab (Wal-Mart, Walgreens, and the such WON'T work) and they will process and print the work. That's it! If you want it for your computer, you can have your Lab scan the images at the time of processing and put them onto a CD for you or you can scan them your self depending on the type of scanner you have (Print Scanner or Film Scanner).

There you go.....

I'm a little ways from Houston. Any developers near Sugarland that you've used for ir?