Help With Epson Paper

[princer7]

I purchased some Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Paper / Matte Finish (#S041605) but do not think I ordered the correct paper. I picked up some non-Ultra Premium Presentation Paper / Matte (S041257) locally after this package shipped and it looked like cardstock. Once I open the box, I can no longer return it.

Help!! The package states that it is for "photographic prints with a true matte finish". Is this really what I need for non-glossy photos? I am new to printing and confused.

I am printing using an Epson 1400.

[KJ Smith]

Hey Jennifer,

Paper is one of those personal tase things.

But matte paper is really flat. I have some. But I think it has limited use for me.

You can get non-glossy and still maintain a photo look.

I have some Epson at home that has a pearl finish. I will look and let you know what it is when I get home.

My current favorite is a smooth paper. It is glossy with a slight texture.

The ones you probably want to avoid are the ones called ultra-smooth. Those are the glossy.

Most paper makers will sell sample packs.

That is a good way to go. You can see the surface and try a print or two.

There are way to many paper choices.

[KdLaneJr]

If you picked that up at Precision Camera, take it back and have them show you samples, then leave with the right box of paper.

True matte is better for some B&W prints and some "watercolor" prints. Luster is my preference for non glossy portrait photos. I refuse to print on glossy paper (with the exception of dye-sub event printing).

Look for Epson premium or ultra premium luster. Both will serve you well.

[KJ Smith]

Jennifer,

The paper I was referring to is Epson Premium Luster.

My current favorite is Canson Infinity Platine Fibre Rag.

I generally only print B&W.

My issue with matte papers and B&W is they seem to lose contrast.

Matte papers just don't get as good a black as a semi or gloss paper.

[princer7]

I went ahead and ordered some paper from Red River - sample pack of paper, Polar Pearl Metallic and Artic Polar Satin. Their descriptions seemed a little more detailed for the intended use... and the ICC profiles were an added plus. Based on your feedback , the Matte is definitely not what I need. Should have ordered the Epson Luster. Looks like I will be shipping this back to Epson unless anyone local is interested in the paper.

Thank you for your help and suggestions.

[KJ Smith]

Just an FYI.

When I had my 2200 the Red River profiles sucked for it.

When you get the paper, the poop sheet will tell you witch Epson profile to use.

I got much better results using the suggested Epson profile.

[princer7]

Dang! I have been having difficulty getting the Epson ICC profiles (too dark) to match what I am seeing on my newly calibrated IPS monitor. Was really hoping to aviod more headache with a good profile.

[revjvegas]

This may be of interest regarding "brightness" of what you see on the monitor vs. the printer.

Lightroom Getting Brighter Prints | Lightroom Killer Tips

[KJ Smith]

I had the same problem in LR.

I started paying attention tho the exposure histogram.

I pushed the exposure as far as I could without blowing anything out.

That has worked for me.

The video John linked to also looks like a good approach.

Just like a wet darkroom, the trash can is your best friend.

[princer7]

Thanks for the suggestion! I went in and created a contact sheet bumping the brightness 10 points up in succession. Looks like increasing the brightness by 20 should do the trick.

[venchka]

Welcome to printing. Q.A. is now in your court. When you do get it right you will feel good.

[princer7]

The UPS truck just dropped off my order from Red River Paper..... OMG! I am in love with the Pearl Metallic!! I ran my first 13x19 print and it turned out great using the Epson ICC profile (+20 on brightness in Lightroom too). The trees and the mountains glow!

Here is the image printed....

[revjvegas]

Great photo.

Definitely a wall hanger.