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Little League Softball CC - 08-01-2010, 10:09 AM


Was able to attend a Little League softball game in Waco last night. First time to shoot baseball/softball. It was at 8pm so the lighting wasn't great. Still, CC appreciated.

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08-01-2010, 04:24 PM


Well I went to look and after getting the first one to a size that I could see and be able to comment on I quit looking. To much trouble. If there was a slide show available it was not seen by me. Please post the photos on this site. Make it easy for folk's to see and comment on the photos. Number them for instance if more than one.
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1. Does not do anything for me.
2.Crop tighter, to much dead space outside of the two players feet.
3. Base runner out of focus. Probably motion blur but I would have hoped that 1/400 would not let this happen.
4. Nice team jube shot.
5. Crop vertically, to much dead space on the left and right. Level using the fence.
6. Out of focus. Bit bucket material. Also if you are going to shoot the backside of the third baseman guarantee that the base runner is in focus.
7. Knowing how tough it is to get the ball on bat. I would rate this photo as only average. The ball a foot closer to the bat would dramatically improve what looks like a foul ball attempt.
8. The background needs to be level. Both the fence and vertical post are not level.


General rules. Nothing in the foreground OOF. No backside shots. No OOF shots. Keep horizons level. Shoot tight, crop tighter. If you want to sell sports action photos you need to get shots that parents with a camera cannot get. Which usually means peak action, faces and ball all in the same photo.

With the above criteria and the post processing suggested it looks 4 out of 8 (2,4,5,8) are good ones.
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08-01-2010, 07:26 PM


Thanks for the advice... it is very helpful.

On #2 if I crop tighter you would see the 2 girls but then the 1st basemen would be half cut out. Does this look weird, or should i not be concerned about it?

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It may look weird and it would be great if she was not there at all. Yet she is not necessary to tell the story of the shot and seeing only part of her is not a large distraction to me. Besides in shooting sports action shots that will happen and you have to live with it. Your position may not be optimal so you may have to readjust if you can. Not all shots will work for everyone in sports photography.
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08-01-2010, 08:28 PM


Nothing a little photoshop can't handle

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That is the ticket.
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Tips from a semi-serious softball shooter - 08-06-2010, 05:13 AM


A blurry (or out of focus) image is a blurry image - unless done intentionally for effect. No matter how much you "want" the image to turn out - it ain't gonna happen.

Watch the tilted backgrounds - I struggle with this also. If you forget - fix them!

I'm not convinced that all of the blur here is from motion. I would suggest that you practice two skills:
- proper holding/cradling of the camera and lens (monopods help, but I personally hate them).
- rolling your finger or some other technique to avoid "stabbing" at the shutter release to avoid introducing blur.
(Technique comes with practice - in sports shooting you are often reacting and getting caught up in the action and start to forget these things as you shoot. You don't have time to think about it while shooting like you do with static shots. I have to remind myself, too).

Kneel. The younger the player, the more important this is. It is a better perspective - trust me. I shoot less than 5% of my images standing up. This can be interpreted as personal preference.

(If you brace your left elbow on your left knee while kneeling - you can accomplish some of both of the past two tips - better bracing and perspective...)

You are up against tough odds without a 2.8 or faster lens for twilight or night shooting. I know, I tried it too. Even then - there are some diamonds that it just ain't gonna happen without the newest full frame cameras that can "see and shoot in the dark" - there just isn't enough light from many of the crappy lights on any (but even less on many municipal) diamonds. [After looking at the EXIF data on Flickr, I see that you did shoot with a pretty capable body and lens - although I don't really know much about the high ISO noise performance of the 50D.]

I had to invest some time to develop a workflow and techniques to adjust for high ISO/high noise shooting an PP techniques. Even then it is tough to shoot under these conditions without some practice. The higher the ISO, the more critical it is to get proper exposure.

Anticipation is a big helper! I started by trying to "shoot the whole game". I eventually found that I got better shots by focusing on little parts of the game and actually "thinking" about the shot rather than just reacting all the time. If you expect action at home plate, then focus on home plate and forget what's going on at 2nd base. I may bring home fewer but generally better shots. My strategy:
a. pick the best action area during action times (a runner at third is a good time to focus on home plate for a potential big play or a fast runner at 1st may mean good sliding shots during a steal at 2nd base...
b. focus on individual players for candid shots during "low action" periods - example: shoot tight on the short stop and third baseman when there are no base runners.
c. Don't stop shooting after the play - sometimes the best expressions and little moments happen "just after" the play.
d. Shoot during warm ups - really. You can generally focus on one player at a time and you already know here the "play" is gonna happen. Often the final shot looks like game action.
e. It is much easier to shoot if you don't have a vested interest in the game. I forget all of these tips sometimes when my daughter is playing. Often I find myself watching a great play and not shooting a great play - much to my own chagrin!


The images (in general) lack "pop" IMHO. They are washed out a little. I intentionally shoot this way and fix them in PP to help avoid blown highlights. This is harder to do with jpgs (I shoot raw), but I think you can see a little improvement with this example. (More than happy to delete, if this bothers you).


Actions:
- Straighten
- Crop a little tighter
- A little high pass sharpening
- Increased contrast
- Increased the color (protected skin tones).

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Thanks.

What did you do to the photo other than straightening it out? Did you use curves or levels or something?
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08-09-2010, 06:33 AM


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Yes - I used curves to increase contrast. You will note that her pants have some areas where they are loosing detail. I don't know how to fix that - editing an already edited JPEG image sometimes results in loss of detail. My basic philosophy in cases like this is to compromise other areas of the image in favor of good detail and contrast in the face. I also did a "quickie" which means I might have been able to correct for that some - the point was to quickly show an example with a little more "pop".
Straightened out the image - although on review it appears that I went a little too far the other way.
I also brought up the color and warmed the light slightly.
Finally, I tightened up the crop a little.

Hope this helps,
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