5D MKII Video archiving?

[ldelacruz]

I have 2 cameras that will record HD video and when I view the video from my camera on my LCD TV the picture is amazing. When I burn it to DVD and then watch it it looks pretty bad as compared to watching it straight from the camera. Is DVD that inferior to HD? Do I need to get a Blue Ray DVD burner and Blue Ray discs to keep the same quality? I am hesitant because the discs are still a bit pricey.

Thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by ldelacruz

......Is DVD that inferior to HD? ......

Yes.

thejakestir added 0 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...Double Post Merged Below

Do I need to get a Blue Ray DVD burner and Blue Ray discs to keep the same quality?

Yes.

[Trey T]

are you talking about the image resolution or simply the quality itself? evertime I author it to DVD, my image gets degraded, the color is way off and it's darker.

I haven't figure out a solution for that yet but next time I will render out to blu-ray format onto regular DVD.

[ldelacruz]

Originally Posted by Trey T

are you talking about the image resolution or simply the quality itself? evertime I author it to DVD, my image gets degraded, the color is way off and it's darker.

I haven't figure out a solution for that yet but next time I will render out to blu-ray format onto regular DVD.

Both. There is just no comparison.

Jake,
That is not what I wanted to hear. I was hoping there was a cheaper solution than paying $5 to $10 a disc. Seriously, thanks for the confirmation.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by ldelacruz

Both. There is just no comparison.

Jake,
That is not what I wanted to hear. I was hoping there was a cheaper solution than paying $5 to $10 a disc. Seriously, thanks for the confirmation.

You could archive to a networked raid server. Then use your TV on PS3 to view the videos.
Not sure how well that works with 5d2 files though. You may have to hard wire it. Might be cheaper the BR disk as far as dollar per GB.

[ldelacruz]

Originally Posted by thejakestir

You could archive to a networked raid server. Then use your TV on PS3 to view the videos.
Not sure how well that works with 5d2 files though. You may have to hard wire it. Might be cheaper the BR disk as far as dollar per GB.

That might be an option. I didn't know I could watch the videos from my PS3 unless they were burned to Blue Ray Disc?

ldelacruz added 3 Minutes and 39 Seconds later...Double Post Merged Below

Any recomendations on where to get a good external Blu-Ray Burner and discs?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by ldelacruz

That might be an option. I didn't know I could watch the videos from my PS3 unless they were burned to Blue Ray Disc?

I use the PS3 to watch stuff that's on my computer a lot. But I never tried a 5D2 video, so not real sure if that would work.

[MHampton]

You can actually burn a blueray "disc" onto DVD media if you stay under the filesize limit. I do this with Sony Vegas and then play it back on my blueray player in high def. I believe it is called the AVHD format.

[ldelacruz]

Originally Posted by MHampton

You can actually burn a blueray "disc" onto DVD media if you stay under the filesize limit. I do this with Sony Vegas and then play it back on my blueray player in high def. I believe it is called the AVHD format.

OK cool. I am sure most of my videos would be less than 10 minutes so they should fit. DVD is what 4.7 gb. 10 minutes of HD on my CF card is about 1gb.

[MHampton]

Just checked, it's called AVCHD. This comes straight out of some HD cameras, but not our 5dii. Don't know what program you use for editing/burning but if it can burn the AVCHD format you're golden.

[zeroendless]

PS3 can be connected to varies kind of card storages, external hdds, network drives or to your computer - it's a DLNA media server :)

All you need to do is convert the 5dm2 movies to PS3 compatible file in hd, name the folder accordingly (important) 1080p or 720p mp4 should do the work just fine. (depend on your tv native res.)

I've done that, the image quality is no less than planet earth Blu-ray footage, minus the 24p film-like effect. :)

[ldelacruz]

Adobe Premier Elements and it does AVCHD. Also my camcorder records natively to AVCHD. Can't wait to try it. I just didn't want to spend the money on Blu-Ray discs for 5 minutes of video.

ldelacruz added 3 Minutes and 15 Seconds later...Double Post Merged Below

Originally Posted by zeroendless

PS3 can be connected to varies kind of card storages, external hdds, network drives or to your computer - it's a DLNA media server :)

All you need to do is convert the 5dm2 movies to PS3 compatible file in hd, name the folder accordingly (important) 1080p or 720p mp4 should do the work just fine. (depend on your tv native res.)

I've done that, the image quality is no less than planet earth Blu-ray footage, minus the 24p film-like effect. :)

Ideally I would like to have all my videos on a hard drive and be able to watch them on my TV. So you are saying the PS3 would act as the player and the interface? Then whenever I needed to burn one I could burn it to a DVD as long as it is under the 4.7gb file size.

Wow!!!

[zeroendless]

So you are saying the PS3 would act as the player and the interface?

As long as it's within the compatible format.

DVD is the way in the past, much like still film (cough) :) why not just copy the few beloved clips into ps3? what you got? like 80gb of storage space?

[AndrewCCM]

I do believe the 5D2 format is a variant of AVCHD (which is based on h.264). However, the bit rate is significantly higher on the 5D2 than most consumer HD AVCDV camcorders. As far as archiving, unless you want to actually master to a blu-ray disc, I would just consider saving your files to either DVDs (the DATA files, NOT converted to MPEG2 DVD)... or a separate hard drive. BTW: Not sure if you knew this or not.. But using the camera to playback your content over HDMI is only 720P. The actual content itself is 1080P. So if you play it back via Blu-Ray or streaming file to a 1080P compatible monitor/TV, the resolution is significantly better.

I am going to try and play back a native 5D2 file on my PS3 and see if it works without conversion. Haven't tried before.

[ldelacruz]

Thanks for all the ideas. Andrew let us know if it works.